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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: Was it not included in what the SCSI was to look at?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: That is helpful. I was not aware of that and I look forward to seeing the result of that. Is the NSAI testing foundations?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I agree that this should be evidence-based. If we find evidence that foundations need to be replaced it would be logical to say they should be included in the scheme; that is fine. From an engineering perspective, if you are going to replace the outer leaves - and I am referencing pictures I have seen of an outer leaf removed and of the floor being held up by scaffold, acrow props and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I thank Mr. O'Connell. He has answered my follow-up question as to whether it would be better to knock the lot.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I will move to the second Fine Gael slot and call Senator Cummins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I will allow Mr. Forde to answer to clarify and then let the Deputy continue. I will give him a further 30 seconds.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: These are important questions and it is important to get clear answers from the experts. Mr. Forde, please go ahead.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I ask the Senator to be brief.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: Sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: It is an important point because we are looking at a very extensive amount to try to redress the situation. We have heard evidence today that there could be ten or 12 other counties. We do not know the extent or how long before these possibilities become apparent. I want to know what is happening out there. I do not know who can answer. Perhaps it is for the engineers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: Maybe Mr. O'Connell could------

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I should clarify that this is not pre-legislative scrutiny.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I welcome everyone to the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage. This is our second public meeting in our examination of the Bill on dwellings damaged by the use of defective concrete blocks. From the expert working group on the scheme we are joined by Mr. Paul Forde, chair and Mr. Martin Lynch, general manager of the pyrite remediation scheme. From Engineers...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I thank the Senator. To reiterate what Mr. Forde said, when the NSAI study is produced, it is about that evidence base and we should work on evidence on this. I am aware people have concerns and worries about possibilities but I propose we deal with the evidence where we can rely on that. We move to the second Green Party slot. I have two brief questions. I will not take up the full...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: That is okay. These are important points to clarify for the public looking at this debate to know there is confidence in the materials, the processes for quarrying these materials and the manufacturing materials that go into the constriction of houses. Does Mr. O'Connell wish to come in on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: I thank Mr. Forde. I have one final question. Is it reasonable to assume that blocks containing deleterious material at some point made their way across the Border into Derry or adjoining counties for construction purposes? I am sure we would have had construction companies working cross-Border. Is anybody aware of a redress scheme in Northern Ireland? Is there any learning? Is there...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: Has it-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Remediation of Dwellings Damaged by the Use of Defective Concrete Blocks Bill 2022: Discussion (23 Jun 2022)

Steven Matthews: That does not answer the question.

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