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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I call Deputy Cullinane.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I will let Mr. Davis speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I call Deputy Ryan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I will bring in Mr. Davis on this point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I call Deputy Chambers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I call Mr. Davis.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I asked this question last week when the Data Commission was before us. Do Google and Apple believe that users have a right to know the data that both companies hold on them and how they are profiled? They talked about going on to Google and about the millions of users who do this. As the witnesses heard from Deputy Ryan, many people are not aware, and certainly I would not be, of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: It is not easy at the moment to see.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: When users go to privacyapple.com,will they be able to see everything that Apple knows about them, that is, all data? They can see it is completely transparent. If I am using Apple devices I can go onto this site and I will know all the data-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: -----and that it is completely transparent in relation to how Google is profiling me and what data it has on me.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I will see all the data that Google holds in relation to me. I will be able to see it all - everything that it knows.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: A person will know exactly what data Google will have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I ask the same question of Google.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: When a person goes on to that, can he or she see everything? Is it fully transparent, because there is a belief out there that there is a lot of profiling and targeting happening, which can be very useful, do not get me wrong. In terms of the services being provided, we are talking about people who may not be able to type and who can use voice and so on. We all get the positives but it is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Would Mr. Malcolm have figures on the number of people who access subject access request forms? If I want to get the full details on what Google has on me, the profile, the data that it has around me-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Is that worldwide - the hundreds?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: In Europe, okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: People have to take a further step to really find out. Mr. Malcolm is saying that people have Google Account, but if they want to find further information on what Google knows, they have to fill in a separate form, a subject access request form. It is not that easy. People's concerns are around the data and how it is used, and that is the reason Google and Apple are here before us today....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: I do not know whether I agree. There is a lot of alarm among the general public. I do not want to repeat myself but I think if there was a very easily accessible route to find out how one was being profiled by what one was Googling, which can be very effective, and how one was being targeted, most people would be happy with that. These companies have got the height of expertise to do...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Data Collection by Digital Assistants: Discussion (Resumed) (3 Dec 2019)

Hildegarde Naughton: Do you want to come in Mr. Meade?

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