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Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: No, but I think we should get on.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: I thank the Minister of State.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: One can hardly prosecute the wearer.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: May I point out while the Minister of State-----

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: We are dealing with an area of unreality. We are very much on the margin when we talk about a large 17 year old child buying a keyring with Guinness on it. Nobody is going to be bothering with that. That is not practical. It does not matter.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: It will not be observed on the margins. The real point I want to make is that we never really legislatively confronted the nature of what is a child. In the last session of the Seanad we had legislation in which, in the same Bill, definitions of children ranged from 15 years to 18 years. We have not confronted what is the nature of a child. We have not given a proper satisfactory...

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: Yes, but in the previous Bill which I mentioned, a child was 15 years, 16 years, 17 years or 18 years, depending on the section of the Bill one was examining. That is on the record of Seanad Éireann.I protested against it and sought a proper definition.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: It is the same with the abortion pill and head shop products.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: Let us have a vote. A vote would be very refreshing.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: Perhaps the Minister of State could guide me as to whether I am on the right page. I am looking at amendment No. 10 and it is about an "Applicant to provide written notice to Executive". It is not about regulations as far as I can see, but perhaps I am confused.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: The Minister of State referred to subsection (3) but there is no such subsection. It might be a mistake.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: I am sorry to interrupt the Minister of State, but there appeared to be a mistake in her note and it appeared that she was on the wrong section.

Seanad: Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Committee Stage (Resumed) (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: A drinks break.

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: It was very high.

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: Why not?

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: Only if they were guilty of negligence.

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: I welcome the Bill. I welcome the Minister to the House. I am glad to say that I understand that she proposes to accept the Bill in principle. It is another good day for the Seanad. It is interesting that we have put through a number of Bills recently. The media showed complete disinterest in any of this material which is very important. I congratulate Senator Mark Daly on finding this...

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: The services themselves will be responsible.

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: On a point of order, section 10(4) states that a person convicted of an offence under this section is liable to a fine not exceeding €5 million so it is there in the text.

Seanad: Corporate Manslaughter (No. 2) Bill 2016: Second Stage (26 Oct 2016)

David Norris: I know but I got away with it.

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