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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: Whether it is or not, it is the truth. We had to reduce the height limit because the tunnel was built too low.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: My problem is that, although everything is pointed towards climate change and the environment, we are operating a system that points towards neither. It actually penalises to the point that it costs the country money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: I am sorry, but had I finished? No. I had a little bit of time. I have to go when I am finished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: The point on the discounts is that TII is giving out gold-plated contracts in that Mr. Masterson is telling me it cannot force the operators to institute the 10% discount, in the same way that there are express lanes all over Europe for trucks. They do not stop: a barrier lifts 100 yards from where a tag is recognised, in which case there is no waste of fuel or buildup of nitrogen oxide...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: They did prepay. Is Mr. Masterson denying that? Did they prepay?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: That is a lie. That is a barefaced lie.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: All the tags were prepaid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: What would Mr. Walsh like me to say? That it was untrue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Masterson knows it is untrue; he was there at the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: That would suit you rightly-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: I would say it was untrue, and Mr. Masterson knows it because he was-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: I know it to be untrue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: No. I was there doing the negotiating.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: It is not a personal view; it is a fact.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: I did not mean to accuse Mr. Masterson of lying, but what he said was an untruth. Well aware of it, he is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: I do. I have one final question relevant to why we are where we are.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: If there is excess funding-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: Sorry-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: If somebody pays €2.50 for a toll of €2.30, where does the excess money end up?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Verona Murphy: The operator, in other words.

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