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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Classification of Film Appeals Board: Chairperson Designate (2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Ms Taylor has enlightened us on this topic and I thank her for attending. I wish her the very best in her work. She may not have much to do but at least she is in place and the board will be present. I wish members of the board all the best as well. The committee will notify the Minister that it has had an engagement with Ms Taylor.

Criminal Justice (Burglary of Dwellings) Bill 2015: Second Stage (Resumed) (25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: I am very pleased to be able to speak to this very important legislation. I commend the Minister on bringing it forward and I wish it well. It strengthens the bail laws and introduces the possibility of consecutive sentencing, which I hope will act as a deterrent to committing crime. One of the biggest deterrents to crime is the knowledge that somebody will get caught and for this we need...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: We have not received apologies from anyone. I ask everyone present to please turn off all mobile phones or leave them in airplane mode. They should not leave them in silent mode as they still interfere with the recording system and the broadcasting of proceedings. This meeting has been convened to consider the Supplementary Estimate for Vote 35 - Army pensions. A briefing note has been...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: Deputy Seán Ó Fearghaíl indicated that he had questions to ask.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: I remind the Minister and colleagues that we are focusing on the Supplementary Estimate. We are not focusing on policy but following the money. We are discussing where the money is being spent and why it is being moved from one area to another. We will be following it every year from now on. We can have a meeting about policy later, but for now I want to know how many fewer payments were...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: We need to focus on the Supplementary Estimate because we have been criticised in this regard.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: That is fine, but I must bring members back to the euros and cents because our focus is on where the money is coming from, where it is going out and why it is being moved from A to B or C to D. Policy is very important, but this meeting is about the Supplementary Estimate.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: How many have left and how many have come in?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: I have one question before we move on to the next item. Subhead A4 shows that there has been a decrease of €77,000 in payments to spouses of deceased veterans of the War of Independence. Can the Minister tell us how many of these payments were envisaged at the start of the year and how many we ended up with in order to make that saving?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: Can I bring members back to the Estimates? We need to focus on the figures. This is what we are supposed to be doing.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: I want to revisit the figure of €77,000. Could the Minister give us a breakdown on where this came from? He told us there were five fewer payouts at €4,200 each, which does not equate to €77,000. Are some of them getting more than others?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: The Minister might send us a note on that at some stage. On the issue-----

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: In respect of the issue of pensions and people retiring early, when someone retires early, he or stops paying his or her own pension contribution. How is that balanced out in the figures or where does that show up because the Department has overestimated at one end, so it will probably overestimate at the other end as well?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Supplementary)
(25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: The Department estimated that correctly but at the same time, the numbers retiring-----

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Message to Dáil (25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil:The Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality has completed its consideration of the following Supplementary Estimate for public services for the year ending 31 December 2015: Vote 35 - Department of Defence.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Defence Forces Report: Motion (25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: The next item for consideration is the following motion:That Dáil Éireann approves the report by the Minister for Defence regarding service by the Defence Forces with the United Nations in 2014, copies of which were laid before Dáil Éireann on 29th June, 2015, in accordance with section 13 of the Defence (Amendment) Act 2006. I invite the Minister to make some brief...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Defence Forces Report: Motion (25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: We really should not do so, but I ask the Deputy to proceed.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Defence Forces Report: Motion (25 Nov 2015)

David Stanton: I have a copy of the report, which I read some days ago. The report is almost the same as the Minister's statement; there is very little difference between the two. There are some extra remarks in the statement that are not in the report. It is all welcome. I join colleagues in paying tribute to the Defence Forces, and I thank the Minister and his officials for attending.

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