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Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It should be easy enough to print that off for the committee. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Okay, that is great. Voting is about to begin in the Dáil so we will adjourn until 2 p.m., in the hope that voting is finished by then. Deputy Catherine Murphy will have the floor when we resume.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: That is March 2016, for clarity.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is the one he got.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: If my memory is correct, he said in his testimony that it had been sent to him by Dr. Stephanie O'Keeffe. That would not tally with the Vice Chairman saying it was the one from Mr. Gleeson.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: If it gives others an opportunity to read it, I can proceed on a different line.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: How much time do I have?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I will be quicker than that. I have a couple of preliminary questions before I get to the memo. The following question was asked today in the Dáil but not answered. As I appreciate that Mr. O'Brien has left, I am addressing it to Mr. Breslin as Secretary General of the Department. Is he, his Department or the Minister aware and, if not, can he find out because it has been...

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: To recap, in the Dáil today Deputy Michael McGrath asked the Minister a question which he did not answer. It is important that we place the question on record, even though I do not like asking it. Does the director general of the Health Service Executive, Mr. Tony O'Brien, who held a different role during the period in question, have any connection to any of the laboratories in the...

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: If that question had been brought to my attention, I would have put it to Mr. O'Brien in person. It is important in the interests of comprehensiveness that we have that information.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: We could help Dr. Scally in advance of his scoping exercise by getting an answer to the question. I ask Mr. Breslin to get an answer if he can.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: On the State Claims Agency, last week, my local newspaper, The Sligo Champion, covered the case of the Carpenter family. A settlement was made in the case after ten weeks of mediation and this was celebrated and trumpeted as the way forward. Will the State Claims Agency outline how many years elapsed between receipt by the agency of the legal letter and the beginning of the mediation process?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I understand it may have been five years. Does that seem likely?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The State Claims Agency issued a defence in 2017 before mediation took place. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would the statement of claim have been made in 2015?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would it not be in everyone's interests to sit down on day 1?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What would prevent that being done in this type of case?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: The blame is with process and consultants as opposed to legal positioning.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: We established earlier that it is the role of the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Charles Flanagan, to take protocols forward and he has done so. The relevant Bill was passed and signed into law by the President on 30 December 2015. It is now 2018 and nothing has happened, although Mr. Breen suggested it is a complex scenario. I suggest the matter has not been given the level of...

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I have read the memorandum. May I refer to it?

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