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Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He is doing it again.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: This is not relevant to the section.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Sometimes I am baffled by the contributions in the House. I understand where Senators McDowell, Boyhan, and others are coming from but what is the principal intent or import of what we are doing here? The Courts Service has advertised positions, and the headline of this article from the Law Society Gazettereads "Judgeship vacancy applications thrown open". The article states:Vacancies for...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Minister might reply, acknowledging the application. Suppose the Minister wrote that he understood the applicant's qualifications for the job and looked forward to a conversation with him. A further exchange of correspondence might follow. John B. Keane is right in saying that in the world inhabited by some people in his books, letters and correspondence, appointments were made on a...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Gabh mo leithscéal, he was not. We had a major dispute when the decision was taken that we would no longer appoint people to positions of responsibility on the basis of seniority. Instead there was to be an interview process and a scorecard reflecting experience, qualification and the interview itself. The motto of the Honorable Society of King's Inns is nolumus mutari, "We shall not...

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of order, I did not accuse the Senator of anything whatever.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: What did I say about conservatives and liberals? I said we have not gone down the American route of asking whether judges are liberal or conservative. I never mentioned Senator McDowell.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: There are such interests.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: If the Senator does not know who they are-----

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: Senator McDowell should reflect on who is against the Bill.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I knew the Senator would pick up on that.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator knows.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: On a point of order, and just to correct Senator McDowell, the Senator and his colleague, Senator Boyhan, will know that it is the prerogative of the House to approve or not to approve the Order of Business of the day. It is my prerogative, as Leader, to propose an amendment to the Order of Business.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: There is no amnesia on my part.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: I ask Senator to withdraw the word "bullying" in respect of the proposition for the Order of Business.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: He used the phrase and implied as much.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The Senator knows well that we operate by consensus, in the main. If the Senator analysed the give and take in this House, he would say that the Leader lost more than he has won.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: It was not I who briefed journalists in the canteen or around these Houses, or who apprised them of the situation. I do not suggest it was Senator McDowell either. When a journalist phones me to say he or she has been told something by a Member of the House, I wonder how that journalist has found out.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: There are two simple answers to Senator McDowell's question. First, the said journalist who wrote the piece read the schedule which stated "published by the Houses of the Oireachtas". Second, she was apprised of the situation by a Member of the House. I can assure the Senator that I did not speak to any journalist about the sitting arrangements of the House until I got a phone call.

Seanad: Judicial Appointments Commission Bill 2017: Committee Stage (Resumed) (18 Jun 2019)

Jerry Buttimer: The phone call told me about the article which was published after that. I received phone calls from journalists, to which I responded, after which I was informed of what they had been told by Members of the House.

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