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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: I have been in the situation where I have been the Minister of State who opened a housing development a previous Minister had sanctioned.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: We talk about how many houses are built this year. We need to look at what is going on in the pipeline.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, that is correct. We all know we had the collapse of the economy and houses were not built-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: I will finish on this. We have many people now in a private rented sector which is undeveloped. We are all trying to grapple with ways in which we can protect tenants in that situation. Different kinds of tenants are in competition with each other for a shortage of supply. That is the ultimate problem. We are trying to tease out in this committee what we can do to protect tenants in that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: First, on the data issue, we are all concerned that we do not have accurate data. When we got the submission from Threshold on the Bill proposed by the Minister, Deputy Eoghan Murphy, it made a proposal that is worth considering. It suggested that if a landlord issues a termination notice to a tenant for whatever reason, that he or she should be obliged to tell the RTB and that the RTB...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: That is probably worth considering, and perhaps it will be considered in the context of the Bill being introduced by the Minister, Deputy Eoghan Murphy. That might be a way of ensuring, first, that there are data and, second, that the data are going to people who can do something about it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, if there is a danger that somebody would lose their home.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, for whatever reason. The provision is not in my Bill but it is worth considering. In response to Deputy Casey's point about rent pressure zones, I have exactly the same situation where there is an expensive urban area attached to a rural part of a local electoral area and it will never be included. They are chasing the average the whole time. We are all agreed on that. On Deputy...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Exactly, but there are issues around that. Currently, in the case of Deputy Ellis's point, the increases would be much lower than 4% if they were linked to the CPI. The question is to figure out what will happen in the future, which none of us can do. On the issue about money to the tenant, that still happens with rent supplement and possibly RAS but not with HAP. With HAP it goes to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: That is a valid point. Enforcement was raised by Senator Murnane O'Connor. That is key. We did not put it in the Bill, as it is more within the remit of the Residential Tenancies Board. I accept that it is true of anything; if one does not have good enforcement then the legislation is not as effective as it should be.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, I hope I have responded to the questions. Some of the points were comments rather than questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Yes, I will have to check the groupings, as I might have another question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: First, I apologise, as I had to deal with two oral questions in the Dáil. After I had made my original presentation, I had to leave. However, I have read the presentations made. I refer to Mr. O'Brien's comments. The Chairman has dealt with this. These are Bills presented by me and Deputy Barry. They are not the committee's Bills. The committee has different views on our Bills...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: What is Mr. O'Brien specifically referring to?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: Is Mr O'Brien saying €1,000 a month for repairs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: There is a list of supports. This is ridiculous.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: I recognise the tight time as well so I will just focus on a couple of specific issues. The RTB gave us some statistics there around deposit retention, for example, rent arrears and the percentage of cases that deal with particular issues. If I heard the witnesses correctly on deposit retention, the RTB said that 92% of cases returned some element of the deposit. Do the witnesses have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Greater Security of Tenure and Rent Certainty) Bill 2018 and Anti-Evictions Bill 2018: Discussion (20 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: We could if there was a deposit retention scheme. The deposit could be held.

Management Fees (Local Property Tax) Relief Bill 2018: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 Feb 2019)

Jan O'Sullivan: I agree with some of the points that have been raised by Deputies, but we have problems with the Bill. I will explain some of the issues that concern me. There is a problem with people having to pay management fees and what management companies can require of residents in managed estates needs to be regulated. I acknowledge the interdepartmental review. The multi-unit developments...

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