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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: From the perspective of Dublin Airport, would Mr. Jacobs be averse to accepting in a new paradigm that the bulk of cargo should be directed through a regional airport, other than that which would operate in the belly of-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: For transit business where no one gets on or off, would Dublin Airport be prepared to lose that or allow it to go to another airport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I am not talking about hubs. I mean when it is only a technical stop, landing for refueling. Is there any need for that to go through Dublin Airport?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: That is my point. The witnesses had to come to Dublin for a job. I am trying to make it easier for the next wave but that does not happen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I know but the critical mass and the dominance always draw more. I am trying to be helpful from an overall perspective. We are trying to look at policy generally and trying to take a slightly different direction in an effort to secure the future of the regions and recognising that the population is growing. To do that, we have to intervene. Maybe my language, in terms of "forcing", was a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Steady on. Mr. Jacobs should go to his marketing department.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I might be giving him ideas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Dublin Airport Authority (18 Jan 2023)

Timmy Dooley: He is off to a good start.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: We promise to be as robust when the Senator is Cathaoirleach of the Seanad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: I welcome the group from Aer Lingus. I appreciate their being with us. They are probably in a different position from some of their predecessors. They are here representing a private company. We are not its board and, therefore, I see our role as working with them to try to figure out how, collectively, we can do more for Ireland. My understanding, at least, of where we are trying to get...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: For Aer Lingus, then, it is the effort on the attractiveness of the area from a tourism perspective so it is about tourism attraction.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: The likes of the Cliffs of Moher, the investment in tourism on Lough Derg, say, or the golfing facilities throughout Clare-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: Is Aer Lingus committed to selling Shannon to the American market? We often hear information, some of it anecdotal, that there tends to be pressure to push everything into the hub and to let the tourists figure out how they will get there. Does Aer Lingus have a good marketing strategy that takes the best of what we have in the Wild Atlantic Way and so on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: Yes, and I thank Aer Lingus for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: Does Ms Embleton think there is anything more we can do in the off-peak or shoulder period and further into the winter period? I acknowledge that airlines have to reduce their transatlantic business during that period because the demand is not there. Is there anything we could do in terms of our tourism offering during that period that would make that attractive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: What about the crew base?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: From a business perspective, is the fact that Aer Lingus does not have a crew base impacting the potential for more point-to-point business?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: I thank the witnesses for their openness. I know that some issues are commercially sensitive and that they will not show me comparators for obvious reasons. However, we regularly hear from staff information, some of it anecdotal, that the cost of putting up staff who are dislocated from a base is significant versus having them located-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: I am only putting forward the caveat. Aer Lingus made a decision in 2007 to drop the Heathrow slots, and it was a commercial decision, notwithstanding others who believed otherwise. When Aer Lingus looked at it again, it was clear that things had changed and coming back was the right thing to do. Does Mr. Moriarty envisage the same thing happening with the crew base?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: National Aviation Policy: Aer Lingus (Resumed) (14 Dec 2022)

Timmy Dooley: Some of us are still suffering-----

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