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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can we have those figures for Deputy Munster and the committee before the end of the meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Deputy Brady. On the side letters, can the witnesses ensure that we get a copy of the letter from Mr. Noel Kelly, which was sent in the final stages of the 2020 agreement and referred to in the Grant Thornton report?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is correct and if there was a final exchange of any correspondence about what was actually agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Shortt. I call Deputy Dillon.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is way over time.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Deputy Dillon. I call Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: You are over time, Deputy but go on-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can anybody else here answer that question?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thank you, Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thank you. Just a couple of final questions regarding to Ms Forbes. She claimed in her statement that she never knew about the €120,000 loyalty payments - and end-of-year payments - in the years 2017 to 2019. She had, of course, been director general since 2016. The board is stating that Ms Forbes is the only person who knew about the Renault deal, but she has stated that she does...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can I ask the CFO a general question on the diversionary route. I call it the diversionary route because that it what it was, diversionary. The purpose was to hide payments. One thing that struck me was the actual cost of these barter accounts. In order to move €30,000 to sponsor the events for Renault it cost more than €47,000. Paying €150,000 to Ryan Tubridy cost...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Would you not be aware that 35% or 40% was being added?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Would you not?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: No.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: But you were aware that RTÉ was using barter accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are there 35% fee charges on all of those? Is that standard?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can we have a list of the credit notes issued over the past ten years by RTÉ? Can that be supplied to the committee? To return to the issue of the top ten earners, who signs off on that? Who signed off on the earnings list that has been given over the years? Would that be Mr. Collins?

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