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Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: The population will grow in urban areas from Gorey to Cork to Galway and in large and expanding towns such as Portlaoise and Letterkenny.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: One of my core objectives in the plan and the three-year strategy will be to have continuing professional development at the heart of it. We can do more with it. The 2% reduction is quite possibly down to the increase that had occurred during the junior cycle reform, as the Deputy pointed out. I cannot see how we have a reduction when we are committed to providing more professional...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: The information I have here states the 2% reduction is reflective of a 2018 underspend of €3 million versus a reduction in the 2019 allocation of €1 million. Therefore, it is an underspend and not a reduction.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: The review is ongoing. We will monitor it very closely. Last Friday, I was in Limerick where there is already a big cohort of schools in the national bundle. They were not among the 42 schools, as the Acting Chairman pointed out. There was a focus on the numbers with regard to the capital plan. If we look at Ennis - the Acting Chairman mentioned Gorey - we must keep this under constant...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: I will highlight a couple of the figures. The Department's allocation includes a package of almost €99 million in measures in the tertiary education system. This includes almost €70 million in funding arising from an increase in the national training fund levy, more than €16 million Exchequer funding for demographics in higher education and almost €14 million...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: At the end of the year.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: I thank the members. I will respond to Deputy Catherine Martin ar dtús. On female participation, the Deputy pointed to the positive aspects and asked why this is happening. We have to be in the realistic space as well; we have a lot more to do there. A number of reports have highlighted that the number of women employed in craft apprenticeships is still low, which is reflective of...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: No, the Department estimated the numbers.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: The Department had to have a conversation with the Department for Public Expenditure and Reform to obtain sanction to incur the expenditure.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: It was not a question of sanctioning funding that was less than expenditure; it was a case of meeting expenditure within the available resources. The Department of Defence had a similar issue to that of the Department. The good news is that €1.35 billion is the baseline figure this year.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: The information I had was to explain the rationale behind looking for €144 million in a Supplementary Estimate. As a result of the Supplementary Estimate a decision was taken to raise the baseline figure to €1.35 billion. The final question raised by Deputy Jan O'Sullivan was about the relationship between the education sector and industry. There is cross-sectoral...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: I did not receive a follow-up phone call, but Troy Studios is looking to meet the need for skilled staff through apprenticeships, which is really exciting. The film industry needs precision scaffolders. It also needs skilled and experienced people for lighting so it is bringing in electricians or "sparkies" to use the slang word to train them up. Consideration is also being given to...

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: No, I have covered everything.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: First, there are no cuts. The Acting Chairman raised two issues and talked about institutes of technology and third level education. What has happened has to do with the National Training Fund. The €60 million is money that is there now for the National Training Fund.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: I want to explain to the Acting Chairman that it is not a reduction.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: It is not a cut.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: I am being upfront and honest here when I say that there has been a recalibration.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: No.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: We will agree to differ.

Select Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2019
Vote 26 - Education and Skills (Revised)
(26 Feb 2019)

Joe McHugh: Yes, but it is a departmental allocation. The Acting Chairman also asked about the SUSI grant. There has been no change to the thresholds and no reduction in SUSI grants. Obviously there has been a reduction in participation and that accounts for the change.

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