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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. O'Callaghan was going to answer the question but was interrupted.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It may be helpful to state that according to the website of the Department the consultation period ends on 2 June.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy. That point has been made.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I have some questions on the airline fines.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Garda issued 958 fines in 2022, which is a high number. If I heard what Ms McPhillips said correctly, in the first quarter of this year, 175 fines have been issued.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am asking about this in the context where we obviously want to help people coming here who are genuinely fleeing conflict, persecution or war. I am trying to get to the bottom of how people can arrive here without documentation. The airlines have, on anything I have ever boarded anyway, someone at the far side. What destinations do the bulk of these people come from? I know Ms...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: No, somebody here will. Ms McPhillips must know this anecdotally.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: In what airports in what countries is this happening?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: At European points of departure?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. O'Sullivan must have some sense of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Rome?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Madrid?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it Paris?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Hold on. When people come off a plane, they are corralled into a queue and the first person they meet is the garda at passport control.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is the first person they always meet.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am sorry. It is not a garda but a member of the Department's staff. There are also members of the Garda knocking around at that point. If people, then, get there and they do not have a passport-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----I presume they are brought to one side and a garda and immigration officers arrive at that stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is what I am saying to the witnesses. Approximately 200 people may have got off a flight, for example, from Lanzarote or Lagos. This is a scenario that happens.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 24 – Justice
(25 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: We know the destination those people have come from. Now-----

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