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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: We are at 1 November here, the first paragraph of the report. The report itself was issued on 28 November, which clearly missed that deadline. We had the Mazars report on 17 December and it went to Cabinet before Christmas. I have heard that date was moved from 1 November to 1 February. It seems that the Department missed the 1 February date.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: No, it was moved forward from November to 1 February. That is the question I am asking. What was the final close-out date for the guaranteed maximum price?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Department missed it.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: On what date was that and to what date was it moved?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Exactly. It was definitely 1 February. Why did we have a mad rush in the ten days before Christmas when we had this report and the Mazars report and the commissioning of the other report? Did it have to be concluded before Christmas? Mr. Barry is indicating there was plenty of space in the new year to do it.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Send me a note on the exact actual date by which the Department had to give the contractor formal notice to proceed to phase B. It seems to have been early January. Give us that note because we do not have that date.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: The next question goes back to the process for the guaranteed maximum price. Part of the problem relates to how long it took to do that. The PwC report states the process commenced in October 2017. It goes on to say that the stage 2 detailed design was completed in March 2018. What work could the National Paediatric Hospital Development Board do on the guaranteed maximum price before the...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Looking at this, it seems the delay in completing this work is one of the problems.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I do not think we have had this discussion before. Will Mr. Barry elaborate on the independent expert that was required to adjudicate? It is not clear in the brief. I have not heard this point being discussed before.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Who was the adjudicator? What firm was involved?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Did that take long? Was everything shoved on to the individual?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: Of course.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: It slowed down the process.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: No one made any reference to this in previous meetings.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have no issue with it, but I did not know there was such a level of adjudication by an external person during that period.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: It sounds like the board had a contractor on site with which it did not work well, given that everything had to go to adjudication. It sounds like the board had a design team that got it badly wrong and had the board locked in. Is there any good news in respect of anyone the board was dealing with? Mr. Barry can hear what is coming out now. The builder had a problem. The board could...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: It does not sound like it has been a smooth process so far.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have seen that chart. Not everyone will fully accept that. It has come at a major price.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Seán Fleming: I think the point Mr. Breslin made was that part of the problem was the decision to commence the work because that is why the board went for phase 2. Mr. Barry will be able to answer this question. He said this is the first time we have had this two-phase project in the public sector but it is a regular feature-----