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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Very briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Could I ask Mr. Collins for clarification? He was aware that the €75,000 was for NK, Noel Kelly, in respect of consultancy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: And he said it was it related to services for consultancy. In a vague way, he mentioned how RTÉ dealt with agents.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: No, he said it related to agents. Mr. Kelly is an agent.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Just so we are clear before we move on, was Noel Kelly getting payments of €75,000, supposedly under the heading of consultancy, as an agent to help RTÉ to understand how it should deal with agents? That is the picture that is being presented.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Collins wrote the cheque and allowed the credit-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: When Mr. Collins heard the name Noel Kelly and saw the reference to consultancy services to RTÉ, did alarm bells not ring in his head as the chief financial officer? I fail to understand why. Did he not question that one bit?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it okay because of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Your explanation here is ridiculous.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Colm Burke.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy, very briefly now.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The chair of the board said all those figures were to be published. Given that Mr. Collins is working for a public organisation, I would expect to hear that answer here today. The Deputy has asked Mr. Collins what his salary is. I would expect him to answer that question.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The chief financial officer has been asked a question by Deputy Brady who has the floor. Mr. Collins, what is your salary?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: We have senior staff from public bodies before the committee every week and we can get the figures for their salaries. RTÉ is supposed to be about truth, transparency and trust.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is a very basic question and I expect the answer to it for the members.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ten seconds.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am going to suspend the meeting for five minutes. The next speaker will be Deputy Verona Murphy

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The Deputy is over time.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Deputy Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Dillon.

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