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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Yes. Deputy Catherine Martin is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: As there was considerable detail in those questions, I will ask the Minister to respond after which I will call Senator Ruane and Deputy Jim Daly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I remind Deputy Byrne that everything should come through the Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I will not let him interject again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The Deputy should address her questions through the Chairman.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Through the Chair, Deputy Byrne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Can the Senator conclude soon?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The Senator can come back in later. The last point is very interesting and I understand there are three separate sets of data - those of the CSO, those of the preliminary census and those of the Department. It is a bit of a quagmire when it comes to deciding which we should be using.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: The Minister will respond directly after Deputy Daly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I will hand back to the Minister now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: I absolutely share Deputy Clare Daly's view on that because there are very dedicated committed teachers working in difficult situations who are struggling with the pay parity issue. Many teachers are affected by this and feel they are being penalised. I also feel they are being penalised. We will agree our work programme later but on 27 October we hope to have representatives from the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: That is the $1 million question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: We have had a brief debate but we are waiting with bated breath for the Minister's reply to Senator Gallagher's question on the third level issue. The third level sector is competing within the education budget, which, in turn, is competing with those of all other Departments. According to the most recent OECD survey, average spending on education between 2008 and 2013 increased by 8% among...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: We had agreed that we would discuss a number of subheads consecutively, but I will take them together and members can indicate if they have questions. Subhead A, second and early years education is first. Then there is skills development, higher education, a matter we have dealt with to a large extent, capital services, a matter we have also dealt with to a large extent, and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: To be fair, that is not really relevant to the Estimates. It is more of a policy issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: He might. The Minister can see that the crisis over third-level funding engages this committee significantly. I assure him that when we enter private session we will be agreeing a work programme in this regard. There is to be a very substantive piece on consultation with all the relevant stakeholders in respect of the Cassells report. As has been mentioned by my colleagues, we are facing...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: On a point of clarification, the Minister mentioned that the action plan is in draft from and he would welcome an input by the committee. I understood that the plan had been published and was in final form.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Estimates for Public Services 2016: Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills (29 Sep 2016)

Fiona O'Loughlin: Yes.

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