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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Is it not the case Ms O'Connell has no way of establishing a person's age and whether they are under or over age on her online outlet?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: How would Ms O'Connell have an inkling if a person is buying online?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Okay. I would like to move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Mr. Connolly is saying that he expects parents to police this and that he does not have any system of ensuring that its customers are over 18.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Mr. Connolly is accepting that he does not have the proper age verification.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Mr Connolly just does not know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Mr. Connolly has confirmed that he does not have any age verification system and he is talking about possibly having one in the coming years. Why would Mr Connolly be selling flavours like Dr. Frost Lemonade Fizz?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Excuse me?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I do not understand what the problem is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: It is one flavour of a product that Mr. Connolly sells. I am simply asking how he can maintain that that name is not intended to attract underage purchasers if it is described as Dr. Frost Lemonade Fizz?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I want to put a question now to Mr. Pescar. Why does his outlet sell e-cigarettes which have flavours like Apple Berry Crumble, Purple Slush, Rainbow Blast or Strawberry Sensation? Surely there is not a demand from adults for those flavours, which sound very much as if they are designed to appeal to children. Some of these products have up to 18 mg of nicotine in their content. Why is he...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I apologise to Mr. Pescar-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Just a moment. I have very limited time and I asked Mr. Pescar a question. Does he not expect that the flavours I have listed out would be particularly attractive to young children? Does he accept that this is the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Does he accept that? Can he answer the question? To repeat, does he accept that those flavours that I have listed out are particularly attractive to children under the age of 18 in particular?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Does he accept that they are particularly attractive to under 18s?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Mr. Pescar is not going to answer that question for me so I will ask another. What sort of system does Mr. Pescar have for age verification?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: On Mr. Pescar’s-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: Sorry, but I asked Mr. Pescar about his tools for age verification? It is a straight question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I apologise to Mr. Pescar but I am asking him a question-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill 2019: Discussion (Resumed) (15 Feb 2022)

Róisín Shortall: I would appreciate it if Mr. Pescar would answer my questions, please. Does he have any system to verify age for people coming on to his website?

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