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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: No.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: The Minister of State asked the question. It is very simple. In 2016 when the OPW said that there were 1,090-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Exactly. When 1,090 gardaí need to be moved, the starting point for me if I were Minister of State would be to build accommodation for at least the 1,090 individuals and then build in a bit of contingency. The Minister of State decided not to do that.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Let me finish. I am in possession.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Let me finish.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: The Minister of State-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I have a question.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: We are not going to get anywhere with this.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: This is my final question. I would just like to get to ask the question.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: The Minister of State asked me a question. I just gave him an answer.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Let me put this question to the Minister of State. This deals with the Estimates before us. How many gardaí who are assigned to the headquarters are now being accommodated in other centres? How many gardaí are in the Department of Social Protection Intreo office in Cabra? What is the cost for the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform?...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: It is too small.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: It is too small.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: How many gardaí are in it?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Not at all.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Is it more than 100 gardaí?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: The Minister of State is saying he does not want to give a number, but I am asking for a range.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: That is fine. Regarding the OPW, the purpose of this meeting is to deal with the Estimates and so we are dealing with numbers and the expenditure for the OPW buildings. It is not a sidewinder to ask the Minister of State for actual numbers. This is what this whole process is about. I understand if he does not have the number in front of him. That is okay. In relation to the OPW building,...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: I presume that is a medium-term arrangement. It is not a short-term arrangement in that they are moving out of the Intreo building?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works (Revised)
(22 Feb 2023)

Pearse Doherty: Is the Intreo office owned by the State?

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