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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Why would Mr. Watt not be aware?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: If the minutes of a Department are wrong, it goes to the core of transparency within the Department itself. Clearly, the minutes had to be made up. If the letter was never sent, somebody was under the illusion or disillusion at the end of it. Why was the minute wrong? More to the point, why was it never corrected?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Would Mr. Watt consider it serious?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I did not ask Mr. Watt to comment on that. If the minuted record was incorrect and never corrected and never explained, would Mr. Watt consider it to be serious? If what Mr. Watt says here today is not recorded properly and somebody said he said something, would he not consider that serious?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Watt is being asked why a Department would stand and preside over incorrect records and not be accountable or explain same.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: They were never addressed and never explained.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: In the same way, the report goes on to state-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: -----that there were briefs withheld from the Ombudsman when that report was commissioned. For me, there is an awful lot of explanation required. I understand Mr. Watt did not preside over this but, as the now Accounting Officer in the Department, this has to be explained.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is what I am asking.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: We are, Chair, so what we need is an explanation as to why the minuted record in 2004 that was prepared was completely at odds with what actually happened. The article states it was never explained and no one was held accountable. I am sure no one is going to be held accountable but we want it explained.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: The article that Fintan O'Toole wrote in The Irish Times. I am pretty sure that if it is an incorrect article, there will be a defamation case lodged by somebody. Clearly, it is set out as fact that the minuted record was incorrect and never explained, and nobody was ever held accountable as to why the facts were incorrect.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: I have some binary questions. They are not binary in requiring "Yes" or "No" answers, but just figures. What was the total figure for the settlement of the 515 claims?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Through the redress scheme, what was the figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Mr. Watt just said there were 515 cases. What was the cost?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Do we have a figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Do we not have a figure for the total settlement? What was the total cost for all of those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: So, it is the legal costs. There was €30 million or €40 million-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: No. Hold on one second and we will get this right. We must not have it confused. What was the total cost without the legal fees?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: We know that the legal fees for cases that never went to court cost €486 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
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Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack (9 Feb 2023)

Verona Murphy: Redress, yes. Regardless of what it was, the fees pertaining to them was €486 million, or was it €453 million and the balance was legal fees?