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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy should indicate as soon as she wants to speak and she will be allowed to come in straightaway.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Smyth is saying there might be 400, 500 or 600 children in residential spaces. As we understand fostering, about what other arrangements are we talking?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is it mainly private contractors Tusla uses to deal with these cases?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Two thirds what?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Companies provide this facility.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: They locate a house in a town and there might be three or four teenagers in the area.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I am trying to understand the situation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: What are the manning levels? Is it one to one?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is higher than that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We were all a little surprised and happy to help when we received the email from Tusla on Monday or Tuesday stating it was looking to recruit staff. I hear it is advertising and has asked Deputies to tweet that message to let people know.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I have seen that a number of Deputies have done so. Will Mr. Smyth tell us about the difficulties usla has? We will move on to talk about the backlog of cases which is related to staffing numbers. Tusla must be experiencing difficulties in recruiting staff if it is asking Deputies to help.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I suspect it is an emotionally draining job in some cases.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Smyth saying that after they have done the two years, they have the PRSI and can claim jobseekers benefit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: They can withdraw what they contributed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Superannuation is at 6%, is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: They are on €40,000. That is the figure in the email sent to the committee. They are paying in roughly €2,500 a year and after two or three years they could have up to €7,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: They can cash it in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: So they can get €5,000 back out to head off.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: So as a by-product of this new system, people can do their two years, cash in their-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We learn something new every day.

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