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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I believe I have outlined my position on it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I move amendment No. 2: In page 9, line 22, after “Expenditure” to insert “, National Development Plan Delivery” It is very straightforward. These amendments all concern proposed amendments by me to amend the name of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform in light...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: The official name of the new office will be An Rialálaí Agraibhia. That is the official name in the Bill but we use the word "regulator" to refer to it in the Bill. As Deputy Carthy knows, the feedback from the farming bodies is that the word "regulator" better reflects what we are doing with the Bill and I accept that. There is no doubt that the official name in the legislation...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I move amendment No. 4: In page 10, line 19, after “Expenditure” to insert “, National Development Plan Delivery”.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I thank Deputies Carthy and Martin Browne for the amendments. While a key function of the regulator is to analyse and report on price and market in the agricultural and food supply chain, it is not appropriate to specify in granular detail in primary legislation what aspects of the agricultural and food supply chain should be examined. We believe that the regulator needs to have the...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: The objective of the office is to bring transparency to the food supply chain, assess what is going on in the marketplace and report on it. Under EU regulations and through its farm survey, Teagasc would carry out a detailed assessment of the cost of producing various agricultural products. It already does a lot of that work. It does so under regulation and in accordance with the law. It...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: Our views are clear on this but we can certainly reflect on this more. There is still the option of coming back to this on Report Stage. I will reflect on the points the Deputy is making. He knows my view as it stands but both of us can reflect on the matter and return to it on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: In amendment No. 7 the additional text the Deputy proposes to insert is "the full breadth of" - those are the four words - the agricultural and food supply chain. In the Bill "agricultural and food supply chain" is defined as meaning the supply chain relating to agricultural food products, so I do not believe it is necessary to add these words, but I can reflect on this and we can discuss it...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I ask because, generally, I would propose to accept amendment No. 8, but the first line of it, "in support of the regulator's activities, the regulator shall be authorised to", is superfluous because the Bill states that under this section the regulator may do particular things. I suggest, therefore, that the Deputy start from the word "seek", but we can return to this. If we accept-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: If we accept that in full-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: If Deputy Carthy returns with his amendment as is but with the first part up to the word "seek" removed, then yes, I will accept it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: On Report Stage.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I am happy to accept it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: My rationale in respect of amendment No. 14 is that I see it as encompassing what the legislation is designed to do as it is and that those powers are already contained within the Bill, but if Deputy Carthy feels they need to be restated as per the amendment he has put forward, I am happy to accept that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I consider that this needs careful legal scrutiny and I need to reflect further on the proposed amendment in the context of other confidentiality provisions in the Bill. I am not sure that it meets the objectives of what the Deputy outlines. I think that all this is covered in a much clearer way in Chapter 10, where, under "Prohibited disclosures", section 51(1) states that "A person shall...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I oppose this amendment. The Bill is specific as to what are considered to be agrifood unfair trading regulations. These will concern business-to-business relationships in the agricultural and food supply chain, and the Bill provides for a range of unfair trading practices in that context. I am satisfied that the Bill is clear as to what unfair trading regulations are required to cover....

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: We have comprehensive and detailed law in relation to the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission. We are introducing a new statutory office which will be transformative in relation to the food supply chain and bringing transparency to it. Deputy Carthy is putting cross-references into already comprehensive and complicated competition legislation by saying in an amendment that there...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I am including that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine (Revised)
(8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: That is so, and I was-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Agricultural and Food Supply Chain Bill 2022: Committee Stage (8 Feb 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: In order to avoid a vote on it, we can reflect on it and come back on Report Stage.

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