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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. On consultancy, if somebody came in to advise you who had been negotiating on behalf of agents and negotiating on behalf of a number of agents in RTÉ, does Mr. Collins think it is appropriate that they would be hired to do some consultancy work and to advise RTÉ, its team here, and Ms Dee Forbes etc. on strategy and how to deal with all of that? Is that appropriate?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: On reflection. This man had the whole thing in the palm of his hand. According to the Grant Thornton report, he wrote the letter demanding the final settlement. He sent a letter for the board and the director general to sign. He had the power of God, by the look of that and according to the Grant Thornton report. Surely, the minute you saw the letter, not just a red light would start...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Would Mr. Collins not ask who the directors of the company were?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I will move on to Ms Forbes's resignation being asked for. Ms Licken was before the committee last week. When she came to the committee, how much awareness had she of what was happening in RTÉ and what was unfolding, in a general way?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did Ms Licken know what it related to?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did Ms Licken know that it related to false figures regarding pay levels for what is described as talent?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did any officials attend the meeting on Saturday, 24 June?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ms Quill attended as well. On the issue around Ms Forbes, the fact is that on Thursday the public position was that she was on holidays, and on Friday it was said she was suspended. Was there any discussion of that at the meeting? Did that come up?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am asking about that inconsistency.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The officials knew on Thursday.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: The officials knew that the public statement put out by RTÉ that Ms Forbes was on holidays that Thursday was not correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Right. The officials knew the statement put out by RTÉ was incorrect.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: It was reported that she was on holidays. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: That was what was being reported.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: I will ask about Mr. Coveney's role in RTÉ. Is his role strategy?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Coveney worked hand in glove with the director general-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----advising her.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: How many years has Mr. Coveney been in that role?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: You have been director of strategy for five years.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ: Discussion (29 Jun 2023)

Brian Stanley: You would have had a very close working relationship with Ms Forbes.

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