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Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: It is, actually. The point of order is to ask if we can put this amendment to a vote.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: The Senator has not read section 23.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: On a point of order.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: This Bill is not unlimited. I want to correct the record.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: That is my point.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: How is that relevant?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: How is that relevant?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: How is this relevant to the amendment?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: On a point of order.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: He should not accuse women Senators of being emotional in this House. That is gendered language and he should withdraw it.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: He was.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: Senator Leyden should sit down.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: He should withdraw it.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: We did not shout at the Senator.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: Senator Leyden should not get emotional.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: On a point of information, an amendment was made in the Dáil to include student midwives and nurses. I referred to it in my contribution. The Minister pointed it out on Committee Stage. We have been over this ground several times already. It is there in black and white.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: May I read it into the record? It states "midwife" includes midwife candidate.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: I am pleased to be of assistance.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: Amendments Nos. 28 to 32, inclusive, are to section 22 that deals with conscientious objection. As we debated the principle at length on Committee Stage, I will be brief. Like most of my colleagues on the pro-choice side, I have sat in a very dignified and respectful silence through many hours of debate on Monday, Tuesday and today, but it is important that I outline some of my objections...

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Ivana Bacik: I refer to amendment No. 17, on which we are co-signatories. As Senator Ruane said, we did discuss this at length with the Minister yesterday and we debated it at length on Committee Stage. It is critical that section 12's three-day waiting period does not become an insurmountable barrier to some women. It is critical that in guidelines, doctors are given great clarity as to the linkage...

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