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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The NHS is currently prescribing it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: It does not prescribe it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: GPs are not the NHS. It does not prescribe it. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I am sure Mr. Dunne is aware of the study raised in the previous session by the British Medical Journalthat showed that e-cigarettes are now linked to fewer successful quitters than other smoking cessation aids.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Is Mr. Dunne setting this aside as a piece of research?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: So Mr. Dunne is not accepting the research from the British Medical Journal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: What is the sector worth in terms of its turnover?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Does the organisation apply a certain percentage to carry out research here in conjunction with academics or medical professionals?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: It does not fund studies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Any education?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I will return to the fact the organisation does not, from what I can gather, support the idea of plain packaging.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Mr. Dunne sees it as a quit aid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Exactly. Is Mr. Dunne happy it would continue not to be a medically-licensed product, in which case we can set it aside as a quit aid? Does he think it should be seen as a medical product?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Can we set aside the idea it is a quit aid? The research is mixed and Mr. Dunne is not moving towards it being a medical product. Can we set aside the idea he believes it is a quit aid?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I would prefer to stick to the evidence-based research.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The British Medical Journalsays the opposite. We cannot come to a consensus on this. Mr. Dunne is refusing to accept plain packaging which, in fairness would be standard for most medical products. When people fill a prescription the product comes in something that might have the name on it. Most generic medicines have plain packaging. We know smoking products have plain packaging. Are we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Nicorette does not have cartoon vampires on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The rate of people quitting smoking has fallen.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: General Scheme of the Public Health (Tobacco and Nicotine Inhaling Products) Bill: Discussion (Resumed) (1 Mar 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Vape Business Ireland's position is that to get this rate going again we need more vaping and not less vaping.

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