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Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I call the Minister of State and Senator Higgins may come back in after that.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: The Senator may come back in after the Minister of State.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I am letting the Minister of State in next. That is the order and the Senator may come back in to conclude.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: As the Minister of State has no more to add, I call Senator Higgins.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Before I call the Minister of State, I note-----

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: -----the Minister of State made the point that 1.5% of the population are paying 25% of the tax. Therefore, the Minister of State has addressed that point to my mind.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Hold on-----

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I will allow the Minister of State in to reply.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I ask the Minister of State to go ahead.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: While the Senator can come back in, this is not a to-and-fro session.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I will let the Senator back in but-----

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: The rules do not permit me to allow people to throw in heckles, digs, questions or whatever one wants to call them. This applies to the Minister of State as much as to the Senator. The Senator says her piece, the Minister of State responds and the Senator can come back in. That is the way it works. The Senator cannot keep chipping in in the middle of the Minister of State's contributions.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I have asked the Minister of State-----

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: That is not helpful either.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: I am going to put the question.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We are not there yet.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: No, section 18 deals with flat rate expenses.

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: Is the Senator referring to the Bill, Committee Stage recommendations or the Bill as passed?

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: The version I have here is-----

Seanad: Finance Bill 2019: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2019)

Gerry Horkan: We are dealing with section 15. We will then take sections 16 and 17 and when we get to section 18, we can deal with Senator Kieran O'Donnell's point.

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