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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: They would be liable and, therefore, in theory it should not place any additional cost on the developer or purchaser of units which have planning permission granted before December 2024.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is irrespective of when they acquired the land or when it was zoned.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: It does not matter if they commence in 2025, 2026 or 2027.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: In some senses, the valuation is the point at which the zoning is set-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: -----but the liability is triggered from when the planning is granted, post 2024.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Okay. That is clear. I am also keen to understand the interaction with the development levies. At an earlier stage when we were dealing with the planning and development Bill, it was suggested that when we did pre-legislative scrutiny on this, the legislation underpinning this scheme would be published but then worked into the Bill. Is that still the intention or will the Department...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am not trying to press the witnesses to commit one way or another. It sounds like a decision has not been made as to whether these will be two separate Bills. The Department might still integrate this legislation into the planning and development Bill.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will go back to one of Senator Fitzpatrick's questions to be clear about the matter. The rate of the levy will be set in the legislation. That means the money will come into the local authority. The capital programme of the local authority will decide how that money will be spent, which means the elected members will not have any role in the actual expenditure. Mr. Hogan suggested that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Is there any shape to that yet or is it just the principle that there will have to be some ring-fencing? Will it be decided at a later point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: For those of us who are not as familiar with how the expenditure of development contributions is ultimately decided, as it currently stands, what role do elected members have in the process of making the decision as to how and where that money is spent?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Is that separate to the capital programme of the local authority?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am not familiar with that process. From my brief time on South Dublin County Council, I know that the capital programme is a decision of the chief executive and the executive who present it to the elected members. Is it the case that the development contribution scheme takes a separate portion of the capital spend that has to approved by elected members or is it that there a more general...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: There is no formal role for elected members to say this money in capital spend should be spent on X in the development contribution scheme as it stands. The witnesses are talking about a set of rules and-or guidelines that try to apportion some spending to the immediate area where this levy has been raised and the rest to wherever the executive decides under its capital programme.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is always useful to think of the UDZs in real examples. I am a fan of SDZs. Mr. Hogan and I first met at the early stages of the Clonburris SDZ. Is the UDZ another way of doing very large 3D master planning? We have the City Edge Project. There is lots of work. Is the notion behind the UDZ to give something like the City Edge Project between Dublin City Council and South Dublin...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Such as an existing industrial estate that might not be the best strategic use of that land.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: The witnesses had things like that in mind. It is to give planning authorities and landowners flexibility such that they are not restrained by the requirement to wait until the end of an SDZ process and things can start moving in portions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: That makes sense. I am a fan of the concept and the current development of cities' edge. Was consideration given to also applying a UDZ concept to geographically smaller sites that are still strategically important? Again, this is more an issue for Dublin city than it is for us in the county. Senator Fitzpatrick might have been on the council a couple of years ago when there was a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Even though the SDZs were intended to be fast-tracked, there is nothing fast about an SDZ. It is an incredibly slow and cumbersome process. That is not a criticism, by the way. Clonburris, for example, took a long time but it was approved in 2018. The slowest part of the development of Clonburris was not the development of the a three-dimensional master plan; it was what happened afterwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: General Scheme of the Land Value Sharing and Urban Development Zones Bill 2022: Discussion (4 May 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have a couple more questions but I am over time.

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