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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: They can cash it in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: So they can get €5,000 back out to head off.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: So as a by-product of this new system, people can do their two years, cash in their-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We learn something new every day.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: That information on the staff is very useful to have put on the record. Going back to the children, I think longitudinal studies are being done. I presume there is a lot of learning from the children who go through Tusla. I refer to the 500 or 600, the less than 10%, who are not just in regular fostering because their parents are not there. Where do they end up when they are in their 20s?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is in addition to the 6,000.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Some 90% of the 6,000 are in fostering generally.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: About 500 or 600 are in different arrangements.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: How does Tusla maintain these children's school attendance? It is a big issue. We hear of taxis having to move children around and of the National Educational Welfare Board. Keeping some regularity in these children's lives is a big issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: With regard to the 600 who are in other care rather than the regular fostering system, are addiction issues encountered? What interventions does Tusla make? I am sure there are myriad problems in this area.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Many State agencies could have an input in dealing with such issues. Which is the lead agency? Is it Tusla? Some of the children in these situations will have addiction issues or will come from very difficult backgrounds. Who is their main minder?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: With regard to Tusla's staffing constraints, we all hear about the unallocated cases. I know we are technically dealing with the 2017 accounts, but I remember that quite a few years ago there was a big issue in Portlaoise or the midlands. A filing cabinet of unallocated cases showed up. When Tusla receives a referral, how long does it take for the case to be allocated? What triage system...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: For clarity, does mandatory reporting now exist?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: If a schoolteacher or nurse sees an issue, he or she must report it. That will probably increase the number of referrals.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Smyth comment on the weekend cover?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is an agency that will cover for Tusla.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Smyth comment on Tusla's computer system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Smyth can send the name of the agency to the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Does it provide nationwide cover or is the position different in the regions?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children and Youth Affairs
(13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Five Rivers. Thank you.

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