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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: All I am going on is the information I was given while I was there.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Deputy Ó Broin will call the chief executive officer in Wicklow. He is good at that. I am only going on information that I was given.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: That is because as far as I understand, it is true.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: If it is incorrect, I will correct the record.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Local authorities have been out of the building game for a number of years, whether it is 13, 14 or 16 or however many years. There is a huge amount of work happening. My responsibility and that of the Department is to drive that effort. That is why we have the housing summit, the new unit and why we are providing new resources where they are needed, not only in the Department but also in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The local authorities have come to us with a number that they think is achievable through vacancy. We will work with them on delivering that number back into use.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is a balance to be struck with local authorities. We want regeneration and reduced vacancy rates but we also want new schemes. We want to make sure that the resources are available in order that they can progress both.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Senator for those questions. In regard to the local authorities' build projects, I note that the local authorities are not giving me the wrong numbers. People might think the numbers are too low or could be more ambitious, but the numbers they are giving me are accurate. I have to account for every euro spent on each of these projects. Last year we spent all of our current...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am not mixing up any timescales. I have been clear about the timescales that are in place. Some 40,000 tenancies have been provided with housing assistance payment, HAP, so far. We have about 20,000 landlords working under HAP and an average of 300 HAP tenancies being secured each week, so it is working successfully. On our policy for rough sleepers, where people are found to be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: That is what we have-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: -----put in place with the housing delivery unit. I gave an example earlier of finding a local authority interpreting government policy in the wrong way because a Deputy brought it to my attention. We can then direct that local authority as to what the actual intention of the policy is. In the example I gave earlier, it was to make staged payments. Senator Murnane O'Connor asked me to do...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I cannot break the law.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is a statutory basis for how an area becomes a rent pressure zone that is outside of my control. It is outside of my control-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There are qualifying criteria under two separate-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Right. That was decided by law and passed by the Oireachtas, not the Department. That determines how areas become rent pressure zones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes, and there was probably a very good reason it is not in the power of a Minister to grant favours to particular areas and not to others. I will now refer to the mortgage to rent, MTR, numbers. Some 318 MTR cases have been completed to date. There are 671 in process at the moment. There has been a review of mortgage to rent, which has streamlined the process. We made an additional...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Deputy Casey for his questions. The Deputy's first question related to the mis-categorisation and re-categorisation of the homeless that took place as a result of the March figures, it was a judgment call but I am quite convinced that had I gone out into the public and given a number that I knew was not correct, that would have been the wrong thing to do. I do not like to give...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It is in the excel format on the data.gov website.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Obviously, if members find it easier to work on excel, it is something that we will deal with. The 59 week process was only something that I commenced when I came into office so it would not have been in place by the time the third quarter report was published for schemes that are detailed in that report. The local authorities took a decision on acquisitions and have two criteria for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I did not intend in any way to make a damning statement about the local authority. My statement was directed at Fianna Fáil as a former party in government. That is-----

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