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Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: At the same time, though, and Deputy Stanton is working in this field, redemption is important. People can get things wrong in their young lives but can then make an outstanding contribution later in their lives. If we look at the Two Norries podcast, which has now come to an end, I remember being interviewed by the presenters and being very struck by their backgrounds, their life journeys...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: The minute's silence for peace today was very welcome given the state of the world. I am always conscious of our Defence Forces and our UNIFIL contingent in Lebanon. This is why I am very anxious there would not be an escalation of the situation in the Middle East. Lebanon is very much on the horizon in this regard. At the recent meeting of the European Foreign Affairs Council, FAC, I was...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: I hope it will be within the next fortnight or so.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: Yes.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: The outturn in 2022 was €117 million and the Estimate was €112 million last year.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: Companies, obviously. As I said earlier, if a company is providing an aircraft and if the aircraft comes in in a given year and we have paid the invoice, we will get a bump up. This represents the €50 million that was converted from current to capital expenditure.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: Yes.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: Yes.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: It is a big change.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: Yes.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: I understand there is one Church of Ireland chaplain and the remainder are Catholic.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: There is one Church of Ireland chaplain and the remainder are Catholic.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: We are open. It depends on churches and their availability. I will check it out. There is no issue with other faiths being available if required and if sought.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: There is a very strong agenda in that regard. When I visited The Curragh, it was pointed out to me that a number of buildings were built with that objective in mind with solar panels and other systems and even vehicles. There is a very good engineering corps within the military and very good research projects, which I am anxious to promote even more. Good stuff is going on between SFI and...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: It is not broken down into languages. About €5 million was spent on military education and training. Suffice to say, we do a lot of training in the Defence Forces. There is a lot of education, which is good. There is a lot of advancement and progress. I will check that for the Deputy. It is a fair point because people serve overseas and language is important.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: I have no doubt that is catered for but I will check. If there is a gap, we can improve upon it.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: That is a very good thing.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: We are the home of literature, do not forget - English literature, for that matter. Was it Thomas MacDonagh who was the first to write about Ireland's impact on the English language and literature? There is nothing like French in a west Cork accent, I am reliably informed by French people.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: On the question about eligibility for private healthcare, it was in the Commission on the Defence Forces report. I want to try to do anything that can enhance the quality of life of serving personnel in our Defence Forces. I want people to stay in the Defence Forces and to recruit more into the Defence Forces. God forbid you had cancer or cardiac issues, you can go private but often the...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 35 - Army Pensions (Revised)
Vote 36 - Defence (Revised)
(1 Feb 2024)

Micheál Martin: I am coming to that. We received correspondence recently about the Defence Forces Justice Alliance. There was a similar personnel campaign for Baldonnel and toxic chemicals. Regarding some of what has been said, it is very difficult to say it is all due to experience in the military or in Baldonnel. Cases have been taken before the courts. In one case, my understanding is that-----

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