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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: The money to build this new hospital, variously estimated at between €800 million and €1 billion, will come from the HSE.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Therefore, the HSE will be the funder but these guys are saying they do not want the HSE hospital on their site.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I have another question for Mr. McGarr. We have to ask the hard questions of everybody - all witnesses - obviously. The HSE legal team yesterday told us that the constitution of the parent company or owner companies - we have three different companies and constitutions, different boards, different directors and so on - was irrelevant because the directors of the new national maternity...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: There is a level of ambiguity, in Mr. McGarr's opinion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I have a question for both Dr. Boylan and Mr. McGarr. One of the issues here that is causing some concern and is contentious is the term "clinically appropriate". I will ask Dr. Boylan first. Is that something in his mind, as a clinician, that is ambiguous?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: From a legal perspective, would Mr. McGarr say there is a level of ambiguity?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I would imagine it is not that Mr. McGarr is calling into question the bona fides of the Minister or anybody else who works in Holles Street or the HSE. That is their interpretation. However, there is simply a difference of opinion and there are different views on what it means. I will put this to Mr. McGarr. The Minister told us he will give us a letter of comfort. He will write to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Okay. However, my point is it would be courts that would make the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I have one final question for Mr. McGarr because my time is up. Given that we have moved now from a 99-year to a 150-year to a 299-year lease and there is an options agreement within the legal framework that, under certain circumstances, allows for the HSE to force the sale of the land, clearly the door is open. They have somewhat opened the door to ownership. Is there any legal reason...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I have a few questions for Professor Higgins. I welcome all the witnesses. We had some very lengthy discussions with the Minister for Health today in the Dáil Chamber. I asked him if he, as the Minister for Health, asked the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group if it would gift the land to the State. He said he did, and it said no. He said it was not for turning when it comes to the issue...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I am asking Professor Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: That is what I wanted to get to, because I do not believe that Professor Higgins, or any clinician at the hospital has raised any flag to the church. Professor Higgins mentioned that those who raised questions about ownership are raising questions that are based on misplaced fear.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: However, that is not my perspective, because I am not fearful about that issue. We have to accept the HSE will be the funder of the hospital and the taxpayer will sign a cheque for up to €1 billion and given, as was said earlier, that Sláintecare has committed us to public health, public hospitals and public money, it should be a HSE hospital. Professor Higgins is saying that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: With respect, the term I used was “a HSE hospital”.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: It is not a HSE hospital. Nor will the new hospital be a HSE hospital. My point is that the reason for that is that the St. Vincent’s Healthcare Group does not want a HSE hospital on its land.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: But the Minister told us today that he did.

Written Answers — Department of Health: Hospital Staff (11 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 229. To ask the Minister for Health the number of Irish and European Union, and the number of non-European Union doctors, who were awarded intern posts in each of the years 2016 to 2022, in tabular form; the number of intern posts available in each year; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23511/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Departmental Data (11 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 230. To ask the Minister for Health the number of assaults recorded against medical, nursing, midwifery and other health and social care professionals across HSE hospitals and community healthcare facilities to date for each month in 2022 and for October, November and December 2021; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23512/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Departmental Properties (11 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 256. To ask the Minister for Health his plans for the Holles Street hospital site once the National Maternity Hospital has relocated; if it will be repurposed within the HSE; if not, if it will be sold; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23704/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Medical Aids and Appliances (11 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 262. To ask the Minister for Health the position in respect of the reimbursement of the FreeStyle Libre continuous glucose monitoring system for those with type 1 diabetes; if consideration has been given adding FreeStyle Libre to the long-term illness scheme; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23774/22]

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