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National Maternity Hospital: Statements (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Why?

National Maternity Hospital: Statements (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: We accept all of that. I will get to what St. Vincent's Healthcare Group may want later. I am just establishing facts here. The Minister came into office and made it clearly known to St. Vincent's Healthcare Group that it was his preference for the land to be transferred into public ownership. That was his preference and he has just explained the reason. However, over recent days,...

National Maternity Hospital: Statements (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Why would the Minister prefer public ownership? This goes to the heart of the matter.

National Maternity Hospital: Statements (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I am asking the Minister why he made those arguments for all of those years. I will not go back and quote what he and others said because that would just waste everybody's time. It is accepted. Why did he have that position before he himself was involved in talks? Why did he initially carry that position into the talks and request public ownership? What was the reason?

National Maternity Hospital: Statements (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: We will get to how clear and clean it is in a few minutes because that gets to the substance of my concerns. I will move on to the issue of potential ambiguity in respect of phrases in the text of the lease and the constitution. I refer to the term "clinically appropriate". We have been through this an awful lot. Yesterday, the Minister offered to write a letter of comfort and express his...

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Driver Licences (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 174. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if he will address a matter raised in correspondence (details supplied); and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23910/22]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Medicinal Products (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: 325. To ask the Minister for Health if he will address a matter raised in correspondence (details supplied) in relation to the availability, eligibility and access to kaftrio; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23922/22]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: We should take it as read and move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: I welcome Mr. Boylan and Mr. McGarr. I will start with Mr. McGarr. To follow up on the last line of questioning, my colleague stated that the Sisters of Charity will not give the land to the State. Am I right in saying that at this point, as we sit here today, the Sisters of Charity have divested all interest in the land and, in fact, the landowners are now St. Vincent's Healthcare Group?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Bear with me. The landlord in this case is St. Vincent's Healthcare Group, which is a subsidiary of St. Vincent's Holdings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: St. Vincent's Healthcare Group are the people we should be talking to because the landlord is not now the Sisters of Charity. If we are talking about ownership of the land and transfer of that land into public ownership, is it St. Vincent's Holdings and St Vincent's Healthcare Group we need to talk to?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Is it fair to say St. Vincent's Holdings CLG will be an umbrella group of a number of different hospitals? It will have a portfolio of hospitals, including St. Vincent's public, St. Vincent's private, St. Michael's and now this new company that will be established, which is the national maternity hospital designated activity company, DAC. Will it be an umbrella group of a number of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: They will not be owned by the State but by that group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Okay. The question then is why. I ask Mr. Boylan to address my next question. Why will the St. Vincent’s group, either the healthcare group itself or the holdings company, not give the land to the State? If it is no longer about the Sisters of Charity and it is now about this group, why is it saying "No"? The Minister said today on the floor of the Dáil that he asked for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: Would it be more probable that it simply does not want the HSE hospital on that land and wants it to be an independent voluntary hospital?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: The vast majority of the funding for St. Vincent's public hospital comes from the State. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

David Cullinane: The vast majority of funding for the existing National Maternity Hospital on Holles Street comes from the State.

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