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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Of the brief and what the firm does.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay, the Deputy is correct. We have seen periodic glossy newsletters on progress and I presume some of the money is spent on that. We need to know what has been covered by the contract. We will ask for specifications or the brief.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is a detailed answer to that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: It states it is with regard to legislation. We asked for a note on procurement policy and possible exclusions or previous litigation conducted by a prospective builder with regard to the most economically advantageous clause in the contract. It states it was done in accordance with the European regulation of 2006 on the award of public contracts and that if it were to exclude an applicant...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: What I am saying is that I think what we are saying is right and that the law is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: And it is also operating in Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is why I am after the figure of 95% for cost certainty. It all went wrong from the point at which the assurance was given that it was 95% certain. The latter was not the case. The problems started to arise at the very beginning. The company went on site before the design was completed and the taxpayer has been playing catch-up ever since. The risk was not transferred to the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I understand what you are saying. I will try and help.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: It would. It depends on the nature of the contract and the level of certainty and risk. We have had road projects where parameters were set as regards design and the companies involved had to work within those. Any risks within those parameters were the main contractor's problem. This has shown up two possible alternatives. I am more concerned about the second of those alternatives than...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: This is an issue we will come back to consider in the context of the conclusions and recommendations of our report. The issues on which we need to try to crystallise our thoughts are being well ventilated. We may not have the answer but we may have some useful suggestions. We will move on. This will be in our next periodic report on the national paediatric hospital. No. 2228B is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will come back to this. The committee will have to finalise a report on where we are up to this point on the broadband issue because it is ongoing. Another committee is looking at it and we will not unnecessarily duplicate each other's work. We will bring our work to a conclusion at a particular point as soon as practicable and hand it over to the other committee. No doubt it will come...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I know people might say we go beyond our brief but to go after the President of the United States might be stretching it a little bit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. 2192C, from an individual, is dated 27 May 2019 and is with regard to the foal levy. We have previously received inquiries from the same correspondent on this matter and forwarded a response from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine which provided a background to the foal levy. The Department advised that Horse Racing Ireland administers the levy and it is not practical to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Members of the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: All members?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is correct. The Oireachtas website will cover that comprehensively.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: No. 2198C, from Deputy Marc MacSharry, is dated 29 May 2019 and is with regard to correspondence from Mr. David Hall on the IBRC liquidation. This item has been referred to and we will deal with it in private session in a few minutes. No. 2200C, from an individual, is dated 31 May 2019 and requests an independent review of the technological, roll-out and investment options for the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Okay, we will ask the OPW for a general response, not specific to this particular contract and contractor. He says he provides all the information on the type of windows but he did not get the job.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is good.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: If the committee recalls, we had the Garda Síochána in here talking about its Vote and expenditure on contracts the previous year and we mentioned Garda stations overrunning. This is in relation to contracts in previous years that have been audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General. We just want to know, and I will wait for the confirmation of the OPW that it and the Garda...

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