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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: On Go Ahead Ireland, for example-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: On the initial contract, is the company subject to a PSO?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: This applies to Go-Ahead Ireland. Does the PSO contract include everything or is the cost of providing infrastructure, buses etc., on top of it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: We provide everything, more or less, in terms of infrastructure and the subsidy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: The PSO contract covers all of those costs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: It covers the day-to-day running costs.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Do we have any idea of how much has been spent thus far?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: No, on Go-Ahead Ireland which I am using as an example.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: The contract over the five-year period is worth €171 million. When the contract was originally being put out to tender, what projections and predictions did the NTA put forward as selling points for the services in order to get a contractor to engage over the five-year period in terms of profit projections and such matters?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: What would the operating costs have been if the services had stayed with Dublin Bus over the five-year period?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Is Ms Graham aware offhand whether it is in or around the figure of €171 million, or would it be much greater or less?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Would Ms Graham expect it to be much higher?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Go-Ahead Ireland has more or less completed its first year of operations. Am I right in saying in did so in September of last year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Does the NTA have any idea - I understand it was the first route that was phased in fully - of how it is working out for the company financially thus far?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Given the amount of public funding available, €171 million over five years, I am aware that Ms Graham cannot go into the exact contract details, but does Go-Ahead Ireland keep all of its profits or reinvest?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Clearly, in the next five years, if it turns out that it has made a profit, it will be for itself, including if it is not reinvesting in infrastructure or anything else, although it is in receipt of PSO funding which is State funding. If the company, for example, was to win a second five-year contract after the first five-year period and was well into profit, would we continue to pump PSO...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: I have no doubt about that. I was curious when Ms Graham made reference to value for money - it prompted my question - which seemed ludicrous to me. We spoke earlier about projections and costs. Can Ms Graham provide a comparison figure for what it would have cost if we had continued with Dublin Bus over that five-year period versus the cost of contracting the service to Go-Ahead Ireland?...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: Is there no plan to have a State company run the service, even though the infrastructure will be owned by the State?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: We are all aware of the deficit in railway infrastructure and services. Given that the NTA is responsible for public infrastructure, does it have clout when it comes to drawing up the national development plan, NDP? For example, does it have a say in what goes into the plan as part of its function in devising a long-term strategy for public transport throughout the State or is does the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the National Transport Authority (10 Oct 2019)

Imelda Munster: How can the NTA realistically plan for long-term transport needs if it does not have a say in which projects are progressed and is essentially at the mercy of whatever the Government decides? We have been talking about climate change, reducing emissions, public transport accessibility and how important those issues are for the future. How can the NTA plan a long-term strategy if it is at...

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