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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: But Mr. Menton accepts that those phrases are peppered across the constitution and the lease-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: -----and if there was to be any removal or any definition inserted, or indeed any addendum, it would require the consent of all parties-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: But this is going to the Cabinet tomorrow.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: So, is it possible that it could be done before it goes to the Cabinet tomorrow?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: We have dealt with the clinical part. This is something that Mr. Menton said was inserted by the Minister at the behest of the HSE, for all of the reasons they gave. I do not need to go over those again.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: We are talking now about the potential of either a definition, a removal, or an addendum to what are legal contracts.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Or it remains a letter of comfort.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: My point is that up to now, as Mr. Menton sits here today, he has had no communication from the Minister that there may be an ask, on their behalf, to the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group that they would accept either the removal of the definition or an addendum.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Okay. Can I come to the ownership of the land? In his opening statement, Mr. Menton said that St. Vincent's Healthcare Group owns the land, which is true. Is it correct to say that the group owns the freehold?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Mr. Menton said in his opening statement, and I have no reason to dispute this at all, that the land was transferred to the group. Mr. Menton said: "The April 2022 transfer of the RSC's SVHG shareholding to SV Holdings ... was the last formal step in the reaching the Board's objective of becoming a truly secular organisation". Mr. Menton also said that there were no preconditions in...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I am accepting that this is the case and this is what Mr. Menton said it was. We will take that at face value. Were there any other preconditions?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Non-religious.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Were any of those conditions shared with the Minister and the HSE?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Would it have had a copy of, or had sight of, all of the correspondence from the religious order and the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group or St. Vincent's Holdings in relation to the religious order removing themselves completely from it?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: There is no other correspondence.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: That is okay.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: I am trying to establish that there were absolutely no preconditions of any nature, apart from the ones that Mr. Menton has cited, which are quite technical. There are no preconditions. So, essentially the St. Vincent's Healthcare Group is the sole owner of the land to do with the land what it pleases.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: Absolutely no preconditions.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: The group could dispose of the land and make decisions around the land, and it is in the gift of the board to make a decision, if it so wanted, to gift the land to the State, if that is what they wanted to do. There is no legal reason that cannot be done. There is no block from the Sisters of Charity and there are no preconditions.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (16 May 2022)
David Cullinane: As Mr. Menton will understand, it is a very clear question. It is an issue that many people have raised. I will go through in a few moments this arrangement that we have landed on. Mr. Menton has spoken about the impossibility of managing what I assume he means to be a HSE hospital on the grounds of Elm Park where there is a private hospital and a voluntary hospital. I am not sure that...