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Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: The Tánaiste was saying to accept the recommendations of the IRG. What I took from what the Tánaiste said there was that he felt that - I am talking about amendment No. 6, which I tabled - having representatives from the Defence Forces representative groups on the EOB in an ex officio capacity would be as if the external oversight group would not be able to handle that. We had a...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Oh, God.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Well talk to them then and stop grumbling about them.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I will pass it over for the moment.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I will let the Cathaoirleach Gníomhach know in a second.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 6: In page 14, line 33, to delete "and" where it secondly occurs and substitute the following: "(c) the Secretaries General of those military representative associations authorised by the Minister as per subsection (3A) of the Defence (Amendment) Act 1990 (inserted by section 23(a)(iii) of the Defence (Amendment) Act 2024) who shall be ex officio members, and". ...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 5: In page 9, line 13, to delete “or matter of Government policy”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I move amendment No. 3: In page 9, line 11, to delete “or matter of Government policy”.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: This is Ireland. There are only three degrees of separation, if that, between any of us in this country. In communities where members of the Defence Forces live, everybody knows they are members of the Defence Forces. Government policy may result in an increase in the price of petrol. When they are filling their cars they may comment on the cost of living and the increase in the price of...

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: They would never do that. Why did the Tánaiste even mention it? No member of the Defence Forces would do that and risk the lives of their comrades serving in a peacekeeping capacity abroad. I ask the Tánaiste to delete "matter of Government policy". It is insulting to try to silence members of the Defence Forces. As for mentioning attending a protest on Gaza in uniform, come off it.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Yes.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Or making themselves identifiable.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: You are. That is what you are actually saying.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: It already is.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: It is not. The Bill refers to a "matter of Government policy".

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: It does not only refer to those in uniform.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: We are not.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: Not everybody is in uniform.

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: I wish to refer to amendments Nos. 3, 5 and 18. I ask the Minister to consider withdrawing amendment No. 13. Amendments Nos. 3, 5 and 18 seek to delete "or matter of Government policy". As Deputy Howlin was saying, everything is a matter of politics. With regard to members of the Defence Forces not being allowed to discuss anything related to Government policy, the price of bread-----

Defence (Amendment) Bill 2024: Report and Final Stages (12 Jun 2024)

Réada Cronin: -----and the butter spread on it all come down to Government policy. The Government published its draft Bill prior to the pre-legislative scrutiny by the defence committee. The Minister said he had listened to stakeholders but he had not. He did not listen to the representative groups, the Opposition or his own defence committee. He just cannot explain why he is pushing this. He says he...

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