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Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs with responsibility for EU affairs, Deputy Peter Burke, and his officials. Today we will be discussing matters relating to the General Affairs Council. The General Affairs Council is responsible for ensuring consistency in the work of all European Council configurations. It prepares and follows up on meetings of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: There is a number of members indicating they wish to speak. Before I call the first of those, which would be Deputy Howlin, there is one aspect I wish to raise because no doubt we will have a focus this morning on what is happening in Israel. In relation to the conclusion of the Minister of State's speech, I want to put on record my own particular view on this. The Macron proposal or...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: It may be easier for the flow of the meeting if we split the discussion into two areas. We will deal with Israel first and then-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: -----enlargement. I hazard a guess that the other members will probably have linked questions on this issue. Will the Minister of State respond first to Deputy Howlin before we move to the next speaker?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Deputy Carthy is next if he wants to comment on this issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I will repeat the sequence in the same order when we go back for the European Union question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I am conscious of the time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I call Deputy Ó Murchú.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: No, I am going to move on, if the Deputy does not mind. Everybody will be coming back in again, I have no doubt. I call Senator Chambers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes, it will be about the regular European engagement side of things. In this round, we are trying to focus on-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I call Senator Martin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I will make a couple of comments in this round. It goes without saying - we have all said it here in our condemnation - that what we saw at the weekend was the most barbaric act of terrorism the world has witnessed in many decades. It is right to link it back to the impact of 9-11. There is, however, a level of sheer lacking in humanity in the recording of murder for the purpose of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Thank you very much. I think everybody has concluded their contributions----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: To come back on the European Union side of things, I welcomed some of the Minister of State's comments on enlargement. We have a strong tradition of supporting enlargement. Ireland has been to the forefront. This committee has done much work, as have various Irish governments. When it comes to the European Union, we should be very clear and I hope the Government agrees. When we went...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: Yes. I disagree respectfully with Senator Chambers on this. That process is coming from a viewpoint of dissolving the European Union as it currently exists. That is effectively the Franco-German proposal. It is not a marginal proposal. It should not be welcomed. It proposes three tiers. They call them rings because tiers obviously upset them. This is a dusting down of a Macron...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on European Union Affairs: General Affairs Council: Minister of State at the Department of Foreign Affairs (11 Oct 2023)

Colm Brophy: I would not even use it to get things started. I would throw it out before it arrived but that is just you and me.

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