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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Kelly rubbished the side letter earlier on. He minimised the side letter earlier on in the meeting. The primary document is the tripartite agreement. Here we have a document with no figure mentioned in it; which was not signed up for a three-year deal, but Mr. Kelly is working on the basis that it is for a three-year deal. The other question I want to ask Mr. Kelly is this - I have...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: A working document?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: A working document?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Kelly is asking me, the committee, and the public to believe here today that he entered into an agreement that was not signed until this year; and that it was to run for three years, without having it nailed down legally and without the signature of his agency on it? That is cock and bull.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not care where it came from. Mr. Kelly is a professional agent. People say he is very successful at it. Does he mean to tell me that he entered into this arrangement without it being tied down for three years, because that is the effect of it? Mr. Kelly did not sign it. Niamh McCormack signed it on 21 April 2023 on behalf of Mr. Kelly and Mr. Tubridy. RTÉ never signed it....

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Kelly and I know that you do not enter into agreements or contracts on the basis of a document like that. He knows that. Am I not correct in saying that?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not care who brokered it. Mr. Kelly is telling me that he went along for three years on a wing and a prayer. That is what he is expecting us to believe here today-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not believe that.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not believe him.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I do not care what was pushed out. There was nothing to stop the contract from coming in an envelope and for it to be signed. It could have been sent by courier to Mr. Kelly, and he could have signed it, back at that time, but he did not, and the figures were not in it. The three-year dimension was not in it. They are the facts. That deal is not credible the way it was framed.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Kelly. We have gone through a lot of questions and we must finish because, in fairness to the two witnesses, they have come voluntarily and they have gone through three hours of questioning. Mr. Tubridy will be facing three more hours in the afternoon, so I want to be fair to him. He needs a break of an hour. I thank the witnesses for attending. I also want to thank the...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: That was important.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I personally thank the witnesses for attending. They have probably heard me many times being quoted as saying that is really important to hear from the witnesses and to get them before the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I want to thank them for their co-operation. The meeting of the Committee of Public Accounts is adjourned until 9.30 a.m. on Thursday, 13 July.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Where does Mr. Kelly's bargaining power come from? You need bargaining power when you are wheeling and dealing and involved in negotiations. Mr. Kelly is involved in serious negotiations-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is only one item of business on the agenda today. Before we invite in the witnesses, I propose that we go into private session briefly to discuss some matters. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I apologise to the witnesses, who we had to hold up for a few moments. As we normally do not like to keep people waiting, I thank them for their patience. Apologies have been received from Deputy Munster. The witnesses are all welcome and I remind all those who are in attendance to ensure their mobile phones are switched off or on silent mode. Before we start, I wish to explain some...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy. Mr. O'Donnell has five minutes for his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thank you, Mr. O'Donnell. I want you to be cautious. I also remind Deputies to be careful in their choice of language. A word like "sinister" has certain connotations.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: Inland Fisheries Ireland (6 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Just a second. I am chairing the meeting. The Deputy should allow Mr. O'Donnell to give an answer. He should keep it brief. Ms Bradley has indicated three times that she wishes to come in. She may do so briefly as well. Mr. O'Donnell should clarify that point.

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