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Written Answers — Department of Health: Health Services Issues (25 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: 1082. To ask the Minister for Health further to Parliamentary Question No. 874 of 1 January 2012, if he will confirm that a series of murals by the late Sean O'Sullivan RHA depicting the work of the Medical Missionaries of Mary in Africa have been conserved; and if the Health Service Executive can confirm future plans for their display [13472/14]

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Rural Transport Programme Issues (25 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: 1273. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if he will provide details on the terms of reference for the newly formed transport co-ordination units; when they will be in place; the stakeholders who will be involved in the TCUs; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [13897/14]

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: What does Mr. Purcell mean by that? Was that used as leverage by someone to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I appreciate what Mr. Purcell is saying.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: Given what we know from the Comptroller and Auditor General's report and from Mr. Purcell's submission, I cannot accept that a proper risk assessment was done. This should be identified by Dublin City Council as well. In fact, one would expect Dublin City Council to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I understand that. It is not represented here but it is clearly the case that it has some responsibility for this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I will conclude in a moment or two and I appreciate Deputy Harris wishes to contribute. Ultimately the building was demolished and significant security costs were racked up over a two or three year period in securing the site, and I imagine the site was patrolled by a private security company. How much in total was spent on security on the site?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: Over a period of how many years?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: This was in the middle of a decision being taken as to whether this would be proceeded with. There was a vacuum, as such. A decision was not taken. No one took the decision to bury this project until 2012, to take the wrecking ball to it and to move on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: The Department has moved on from that to locating the State pathology building project in the vacated premises at Whitehall that once belonged to An Garda Síochána, and obviously it is managed by the OPW. What is the cost of fitting out that building, making sure it is fit for purpose? We are talking about a building that will store sensitive material, have a mortuary, an autopsy...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: Has the Department seen any planning objections?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: The €3 million loss.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I thank Mr. Purcell.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I am led to understand there may be issues for women who were in these institutions and who are living abroad. They may not be able to access the same kind of health care supports as would be available to women who currently reside in this country. Is this an issue the Secretary General has encountered and, if so, how will it be addressed to ensure the scheme is applied consistently and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I will move on to the State Pathology Service for which the development of a new facility was first mooted in 2006. However, the State remains without an adequate building in which to house the State Pathology Service and the Dublin coroner's facility. I note that in his opening statement, Mr. Purcell consistently reiterated the Department's commitment to strong oversight and the highest...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: Would the Secretary General agree it has not been the Department's finest hour?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: How was that not anticipated? It is right next door to a well-known national monument. This would have come within the purview of someone in the Department of Justice and Equality but either was ignored or someone was negligent and simply decided it was not an issue and it would proceed anyway. In fairness, Dublin City Council would have been aware of this as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: Is it the case it never came up in discussions with the Department of Justice and Equality? Did Dublin City Council not ever state its belief that its line Department might have an issue with this project, because it is responsible for national monuments? The council is a planning authority that gave the Part 8 permission but it never anticipated this. It really is an unfortunate comedy of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: It was held up by a bunch of trees and the locations in which trees and shrubs might go.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
Chapter 9 - State Pathology Building Project
(13 Mar 2014)

Gerald Nash: I will stop the Secretary General. Clearly, there are significant developments in the offing. The first meeting of the review group is taking place today, which is to be welcomed. There is urgency about issues surrounding the appropriate serving of summons. According to the Garda Inspectorate's report, €7.5 million in fines revenue was forgone. The matter should be pursued...

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