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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy. That concludes our consideration of the work programme. Since there is no more business, that concludes the proceedings. I thank the members for their hard work and dedication during this Dáil term, particularly in the past month or so. It has been particularly busy. I acknowledge the teamwork and that, despite the fact that there was a lot of pressure on us...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I welcome everyone and remind all those in attendance to ensure that their mobile phones are switched off or in silent mode. Before we start, I wish to explain some limitations to parliamentary privilege and the practices of the Houses of the Oireachtas with regard to references that witnesses can make to other persons in their evidence. The evidence of witnesses physically present, or who...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Tubridy. It is normally five minutes for opening statements-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----and we are 15 minutes into the meeting. I ask you to be as brief as you can, Mr. Kelly. We want to give you the opportunity because we realise you are here today to give your side, so please co-operate.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank the witnesses for those opening statements. Before we move to the committee members, Mr. Tubridy might clarify one issue for me. Obviously, the invoices for the payments of €75,000 were what brought this to light in March when the auditors found them. I want to ask Mr. Tubridy to set the scene for this meeting this morning. That €75,000 shortfall gap or additional...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thousands of my constituents and people around the country were on a €200 or €300 per week pandemic payment. Did Mr. Tubridy or his agent between them have any doubts about the merits of that or the credibility of seeking to make up that €75,000 at that particular point? Mr. Tubridy presented "The Late Late Show" and provided a good service. I watched it because it was...

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Tubridy might give short answers because we want to move on.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: With regard to that issue, Mr Tubridy.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: On Mr. Tubridy's instructions.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: It was on Mr. Tubridy's instructions.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did Mr. Tubridy have any doubts in those discussions they had between them back in the earlier part of 2020 around all of this?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: About the merits of it.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is not what I am asking Mr. Tubridy. Did he have doubts about the public optics of this and the possible reputational damage of looking for that €75,000 in those circumstances? It is a "Yes" or "No" answer. Did he discuss the merits of that? That is all I want to know.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Did Mr. Tubridy discuss that with his agent?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Tubridy is telling me this morning that he had no conversation with NK Management regarding the matter of looking for this gap of €75,000.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Tubridy knew this gap had to be made up and this €75,000 had to be magicked up, for want of a better term, some way or another.

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