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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I want to put one thing in context-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: When was that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Let me make one observation here, to make it clear to the people watching. This fund is paid from the Central Fund, which does not go through a Vote in the Oireachtas. In addition to the President's allowance, the Central Fund also includes payments for the Judiciary and the Comptroller and Auditor General. I am a layman, but the President's Establishment, the Judiciary, and the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will move on. The next item relates to Teagasc. The committee recommended that Teagasc ensures procurement processes are complied with, and that has been accepted in full. We spotted an issue, and that has been accepted. The next recommendation states:The committee recommends that a more sustainable method for establishing funds for both (a) infrastructural maintenance and (b) longer...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The next chapter in the report relates to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We had a discussion on the new single public service pension scheme. We were critical of the fact that the Department had not carried out its work before the legislation was passed, and it has accepted that completely. The Department says that, due to other pressures, it did not have the resources...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: He said the Department looked at it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: It states: "will consider whether it is possible to introduce legislation that would allow, in the future, trading losses carried forward to be separately identified". Of course, it can do that. Anyone who sees the corporation tax forms or and income tax forms will know there are 864 different questions on breaking down expenses on some of the forms that are sent out. It is easy to-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will not crack that one. It takes years of experience. We accept that. He sees the validity and notes what we are saying, and he is saying he will consider it. He is not saying "Yes" or "No", and he has not rejected it. It is up to any Oireachtas Member if they want deal with that issue. That is how I see it. It is legislation, full stop. It is the finance Bill. One would then...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I totally empathise. I was nervous of this recommendation lest it be seen that we were trying to get at vulnerable young people. We tried to make our recommendation as sensitive as possible because we all understand the point the Deputy is making. We hope the Department is listening to that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The next item also deals with the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection. We were concerned about delays in dealing with any payments that required a medical assessment, such as disability or invalidity benefit, in that there is a lack of doctors and there is always a delay on the medical side. We made the recommendation to examine the possibility of contracting nurses to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have all seen it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I concur with the Deputy. Somebody in the Department should undertake a strategic analysis of the outcomes of these cases from the appeals office. If so many are being overturned, perhaps the criteria the appeals office are using should be used as the criteria for stage 1 of the application. We all know that when a case goes to the appeals office, the officials will tell the person to get...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The note states: "...an econometric evaluation which was prepared as part of a collaboration between the Department's Statistics and Business Intelligence Unit (a part of the Irish Government Statistical Service which is headed by the CSO), and the Directorate for Employment, Labour and Social Affairs of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)." The Department says...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: We have been referred to the OECD's report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Other members share that view.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: The report's final recommendation reads, "The Committee recommends that annual targets are developed to ensure the number of PRSI checks remains consistent." The Department accepts this and state that in recent years the number of employer PRSI inspections has been low. It is very important for the protection of employees that the proper PRSI is deducted and recorded. The report also...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: There is good stuff there. We are doing our work. It is good to have the interaction. It is regularly pointed out that a legislative issue is the cause of what we have uncovered. It is up to members to deal with that. I now want to move on to the rest of the correspondence as quickly as possible. Some of it is relevant to this issue. One of the reasons I want to mention some of it is...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: No, there are more than 18 accounts. Some of these Departments have multiple accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (20 Jun 2019)

Seán Fleming: Yes, we are talking about the accounts for 2018. We wanted all of the accounts submitted.

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