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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I am aware of that. In fairness, the witnesses are here-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: So it is good legal title?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: So I would have full control over the property for which I would have a 299-year lease?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: There are senior counsel and other legal people with opinions in circulation. One opinion states that in terms of the ownership of the lands, the owner of the lands is St. Vincent's Healthcare Group and that there is no proposal to change this. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: The opinion of the senior counsel – I believe a second one has been issued in the past few days – is that, technically, the HSE will not own the building and that it will be owned by the St. Vincent's group.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: In layman's terms, clause 4 of the lease, entitled "DEMISE", states "the Landlord HEREBY DEMISES unto the Tenant ALL THAT the Premises ...". What does demise mean in layman's terms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I thank the Minister and all the medical and legal people for attending. May I deal with the legal issue and the issue of the 299-year lease? If I told the legal people present that I was going to buy a house for 299 years and intended to get a mortgage, would it be regarded as having good legal title? Would I have full control and possession of the property even though there would be a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Under the terms of the lease, is the tenant or lessee totally responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of the building such that the landlord has nothing to do with the building in real terms?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Is Mr. O'Donoghue saying that what is there-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Is Mr. O'Donoghue saying what is circulating at the moment from the legal people is incorrect? Are they incorrect to say the State does not own the building?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: There is more than one legal opinion circulating.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Both of them-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: I move to the issue of compulsory purchase. I refer again to the senior counsel's opinion, in which he states on page 62: Insofar as the State proposes to compulsory acquire the lands, the appropriate legislation is under the Health Act 1947 which confers on the HSE the power to compulsorily acquire lands. However, significant issues relate to whether the procedure under Health Act 1947...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: In fairness, although the senior counsel is supporting the use of a CPO, he is highlighting that there are significant issues relating to whether the procedure under the Health Act 1947 is constitutional. He has placed a question mark over that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (11 May 2022)

Colm Burke: Mr. O'Donoghue believes the 299-year lease is a better option.

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Public Transport (10 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 248. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if consideration will be given to enabling commercial bus services to reduce their fares in line with reductions in public service obligation, PSO, fares through financial assistance from his Department considering more than half of all kilometres operated in Ireland are by commercial operators and the new PSO rates put them at a...

Written Answers — Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport: Public Transport (10 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 249. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport the details of the plans that his Department has to support commercial bus operators in Ireland against recent rising costs in service delivery; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23279/22]

Written Answers — Department of Finance: Insurance Industry (10 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 279. To ask the Minister for Finance the details of his Department's plans to ensure that recent insurance reforms have a lasting effect on liability premiums paid by business considering 42% of organisations say that insurance premiums are threatening their future; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23280/22]

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Visa Applications (10 May 2022)

Colm Burke: 458. To ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade if he will engage with the United States Embassy in Dublin with a view of expediting the processing of J1 visa applications considering many persons are currently awaiting approval and are due to travel at the end of May 2022; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23447/22]

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