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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Does that data exist somewhere? Would the Minister for Justice, for example, have that data?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: The point I am making is that for somebody like me coming from the outside and looking at a large increase from 2020 to 2021, I am trying to understand if that is something to do with the relationship of An Garda Síochána with the community or is there some sort of operational issue here? Without knowing how many complaints were actioned and then upheld, or resulted in a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Out of how many cases and for what year do those figures relate?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I would hope to glean from these figures when going through them if, for example, referrals to GSOC under section 102 of the Act were considered to have been upheld or actioned? They may been the investigations that were opened in the public interest and if we add in some of those numbers, we are still looking at very low levels of complaints being upheld. If one adds them up, it is less...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That a very interesting number. Let us take 2020 and use those numbers. Of the 3,908 complaints, about 5% of those would have been investigated fully.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: In the case of the rest of these, are they held to be inadmissible?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I take that point but I presume the witnesses are raising the point because they consider GSOC to be in line with that standard.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I have used up all my time on the data issue but the inclusion of that kind of information in the next report would be important, particularly in light of the fact that submissions have increased. I want to turn to the new powers that are proposed. I am particularly interested in moving away from the requirement for a specific complaint. I want to get the witnesses' perspective. Where...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I want to get some clarity on that. When Ms Logan mentions a different stage does she mean an earlier stage when GSOC is doing some fact-finding?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: When Ms Logan says that GSOC will make a decision can she outline what that looks like? How many people are in a room? Who is making that decision? What is the process within GSOC? I know GSOC goes to the DPP afterwards.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: There is no need to describe them for me. I know the protocols.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: When Ms Logan refers to "we", is that one person-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: How many people does the commission comprise of in a room? Is it all three?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Under these new powers, if they were being taken to investigate an area where GSOC considered that there was some concern, are the witnesses saying there could be three people in the room deciding to take that action; not just one?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I am okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 41 - Policing Authority
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I thank our witnesses today. Even with the 15 minutes, I have a lot of areas I would like to cover so I hope Ms Hall will excuse me if I cut across her every so often. It is inevitable in these sessions. I will begin with the issue of the computer-aided dispatch, CAD, incidents. I am aware that the review process is not complete but, of the 2,316 incidents that have been reviewed for...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 41 - Policing Authority
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I take Ms Hall's point about nuance and the volume but, even if we take the data provided as a subset and a percentage of calls looked at, is she happy that the percentage is reflective of the level of crimes that were not recorded but which should have been?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 41 - Policing Authority
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: I thank Ms Hall for that answer. I am now going to move onto another topic. At the end of February 2022, there were 227 sworn members of An Garda Síochána at the rank of superintendent or higher. Of these, 38 were women while 189 of their counterparts were male. The Policing Authority is responsible for carrying out selection competitions for the senior ranks of An Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 41 - Policing Authority
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: Would Ms Hall say that changing the culture of an organisation is even more difficult when we are not seeing women come through at senior levels?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 41 - Policing Authority
(7 Apr 2022)

Neasa Hourigan: That answers my question. I am glad Ms Hall cited that issue. I am a Deputy for an inner-city area and we have lots of new communities in Ireland. It would be fantastic to see more diversity.

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