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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: There you are.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Absolutely. Deputy Devlin is online and indicated. He might want to say a few words.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Deputy McAuliffe, we are acknowledge Shane. It is his last day today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Absolutely, and that is always acknowledged. With the reports and recommendations as well, Shane has played an active role in that. Sometimes people say that civil servants are civil servants but I have been very impressed with the dedication. In the future, may he have every good wish. Katherine will ably fill those shoes. Hopefully, she will not be long settling into it. We look...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: On the national debt one, does the €3.8 billion take in the residue from the bank debt and all of that? Is everything in that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is that likely to decrease in the coming years as trends are going? It is not?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I refer to the HSE and the fourth bullet point on high remuneration. One of the highest earners is receiving €1 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is that part salary and part-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. McCarthy have any idea what position the person has?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are they in management or medical?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is the €1 million salary medical?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does it relate to payment for work carried out in one year?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: It does?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is not like a lump sum payment at the end of a year because somebody is leaving, with something accruing in it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is an amazing amount. Can we get some information and a breakdown of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: We should look for that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: In my innocence I thought the CEO was the highest-paid employee of the HSE, and that salary was around €400,000. That figure, for medical staff, is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I suggest that we look for the positions held by the people who received this pay, including the highest number of €980,000, which is double what Ryan Tubridy was getting. We will ask for an explanation note on it from the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: We have it on our work programme for September and October to have the HSE in.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I suggest that when we are corresponding back with the HSE, we ask them if there is an element of accrual in it, and to explain what it is. This is just to clarify. Of course, what Mr. McCarthy is saying is-----

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