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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: He saying there should be engagement. There has been engagement. Is he saying we should do nothing?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I will put it this way. No matter how much engagement there is, until there is a government in the North, it will not be possible to have a fertiliser register there. Is the Deputy saying we should not do a fertiliser at all until there is one in Northern Ireland? That does not make sense.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: So do I.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: What is the Deputy suggesting? Is he suggesting we do not do a database at all until there is one in the North?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: When might that possibly be?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I am a Minister in the Republic.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: Does the Deputy think I can introduce legislation in Northern Ireland? We have engaged. Our officials have engaged with officials in Northern Ireland. There is no government in Northern Ireland at the moment. They have engaged.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: Our officials have engaged.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: Who does the Deputy suggest I meet at the moment?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: My officials-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: There is no Minister.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: What Deputy Carthy seems to be suggesting is that we do not do any fertiliser register at all until such time as there is one in Northern Ireland. I do not agree with that. Part of the reason we need the register is that we have made commitments relating to the nitrates regulation and the application of the derogation. We have made commitments to bring in a fertiliser register as part of...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: We are; we have engaged. What the Deputy is asking is that we will not do anything until such time as there is a cross-Border database.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: The is asking that we do not have any database until such time as there is an all-island one. God knows when that will be.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: That is the ask.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: Be honest with me.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: What the Deputy is asking here is that we do not do it until such time as - God knows when - there is one in the North. That will create all sorts of problems in the management of fertiliser, the management of the nitrates derogation, getting flexibility at a European level, being able to run the eco-schemes, and getting up and operational. The fertiliser database will be straightforward...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I move amendment No. 3: In page 8, line 3, to delete “Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform” and substitute “Minister for Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform” Amendment No. 3 proposes to replace "Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform" with the new title for the Minister that has changed since the legislation was first...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I move amendment No. 4: In page 8, between lines 16 and 17, to insert the following: “ “companion animal” in relation to a companion animal medicine, means— (a) a dog or cat, (b) a rabbit, small rodent, cage bird or homing pigeon kept for domestic purposes, or (c) a terrarium animal or an aquarium fish;”.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Charlie McConalogue: I thank Deputies Carthy and Fitzmaurice. All the amendments are of interest, but the one that is of most interest and the one on which we have had most discussion so far is amendment No. 7, which relates to the capacity to prescribe other than by farm visit. That is a matter in respect of which I have had significant engagement with all stakeholders from the outset. What this legislation...

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