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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes, we cannot receive second-hand evidence. The next speaker is Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does he have an update for the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Please do.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Ms O'Keeffe has the opportunity to come back and appear before the committee again.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: She has appeared before the Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport and Media, but we would like her to appear. Are we agreed that we would like to see her at the Committee of Public Accounts in the future?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is not going to happen. That has been clarified.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: We might agree to ask Ms O'Keeffe to appear before this committee. She has appeared before the Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport and Media.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Bakhurst. I call Deputy O'Connor.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I thank Ms Ní Raghallaigh. I call Deputy Munster.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I will take that as a statement and call on Deputy Ó Cathasaigh.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Thank you. Mr. McBennett wishes to comment.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: I want to ask Mr. Collins in regard to earnings and published earnings for the 2017 period. There are still questions around Mr. Tubridy's earnings for 2017. There is still a difference of €34,000 between his contract and his published earnings. Mr. Collins might help me with this. There has been a lot of talk about €120,000. Can we accept that his earnings in that period...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Noel Kelly, his agent, acted on his behalf and we have had explanations around this, but Mr. Tubridy received €120,000 more than the published earnings, so we will put that to bed. The updated figures from RTÉ on 22 June were €511,000 in 2017, €544,000 in 2018 and €545,000 in 2019. Mr. Collins is still certain those figures are correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is fine. With regard to 2017, there is one matter that we noticed, which is that the presenter’s contract was €544,000 just for 2017. To recap on those figures, the original one published by RTÉ was €491,000. It turned out it was €20,000 more than that and was €511,000, but the presenter's contract was €544,000 - I am not counting the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: It jumps out, does it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: Would that be a possible explanation?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: We look forward to seeing that. What was actually received was €120,000 more than what was originally published. That is what I want to clarify. The Comptroller and Auditor General has suggested an explanation. Mr. Collins can come back and definitively clarify this with regard to the €34,000 gap. I will move on to the classification of contractors. There was a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Brian Stanley: There were 500 cases.

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