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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What is involved in auditing the issuing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: If we look up the Act, does it state a figure of €317,000, or how is it determined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: By any chance, does Mr. McCarthy know the number of the statutory instrument?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is €317,000 per year, which Mr. McCarthy says is an allowance and not remuneration. Over ten years it comes to €3.2 million or thereabouts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Do we know what it is used for? Does the Act prescribe what it is to be used for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There is an allowance of €317,000 per year which is not audited. We do not know what it is used for and it is not prescribed in law. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: By "purpose" does Mr. McCarthy mean its use and what it is used for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am interested in that. There is a payment that is made to the President. I do not want to get into the President at all, but a figure of €317,000 per year is provided for under an Act. However, we do not know what it is to be used for. It is an allowance, but we do not know what its purpose is. Theoretically, it could be spent on anything. Presumably, it might not even be spent...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not surrenderable.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Therefore, it is an allowance for unknown items or purposes which is not audited and, presumably, not subject to taxation because it is not a salary.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does Mr. Fraser have a comment to make on this? It seems-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not part of the Vote.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am confused.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is it included in the figure of €8.1 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: From where is it coming?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Presumably, the Accounting Officer is our friend the Secretary General of the Department of Finance.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does the Secretary General of the Department of Finance have any audit function in respect of the figure of €317,000?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does anyone in the Department of Finance?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I know that sometimes my language is a little flippant, but is this a payment of €317,000 on the blind? Is it the case that no one has any remote oversight, notion or idea of what it is spent on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does Mr. Fraser know?

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