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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: Three questions. On the last one, I have engaged with the SEAI and I am not sure how much is happening in that space.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: Sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I know I am running out of time but the feedback I got from Seán Armstrong and the Department officials the last time was that levels is the route we are taking in the context of measurement. An A-rated building, it depends on the building type but it is around 200 to 300 and it goes up from that. That is what the international data suggest at the moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I will come back later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: The Senator has a minute remaining.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I will follow up later as well because I have a few questions. Did we pursue part L in isolation as a State or did we follow Europe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I have some follow-up questions. On the green procurement group, I have been chasing the green public procurement policy and I have spoken to Ciarán Cuffe and Robert Watt over the years about it about it as well. It does not seem to be anywhere. There is a draft somewhere. Is that group a public committee? Has it published any reports?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: Is Mr. Meally a member? Is it public knowledge who the members are?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I will have a look. My other question arises from the briefing I had from the Department of Housing, Government and Local Heritage. I know it is not fully Mr. Meally’s bailiwick, so I am asking his opinion in the context of levels and the EU implementing the carbon targets and whether they will be A- or B-rated. I know that is out there because I am working on buildings where we are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: Is there any sight of when this will happen? I had this conversation with the Department at least a year ago.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: There are more than 500 million people living in Europe. I know the process of assimilating over 20 countries into one process is happening but my understanding is that we decide what way we implement directives. Is that not correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: It concerns environmental product declarations. Are the EPDs not universal and specific to a material?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I get it as regards a machine. I might come back on this if that is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: On CEM III, which is ground granulated blastfurnace slag, GGBS, cement, my understanding from the State architect, Mr. Ciarán O'Connor, is there is only 18% of it available on the planet because it is a by-product of the steel industry. One would never get 100% CEM III; one would only ever get 20%. We could probably get more because we are a small country, but in this context one is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: I cannot imagine such a system being brought in here but it seems like a good idea for the building to be tested post occupancy and it to be ascertained whether the BER has been attained. Such a system puts it up to the builders. Currently is it all done pre-occupancy?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: Yes, the London energy transformation initiative.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: The predicted rating.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: South Dublin County Council was quite proud to report to us that it was pulling down its buildings' operation energy when I was on the council. There was a building on Baggot Street that was famous for its energy per square metre. As architects, we were told to have a look at the rating because it was massive. It was 600 kWh or 700 kWh per sq. m. It was through the roof. The rating was...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Carbon and Energy within the Construction Industry: Discussion (5 Apr 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: It has been a constructive meeting. The committee stands adjourned until 1.30 p.m. on Thursday, 7 April 2022. I thank our guests.

Written Answers — Department of Health: Covid-19 Pandemic Supports (31 Mar 2022)

Francis Noel Duffy: 392. To ask the Minister for Health if the Covid recognition payment for healthcare workers will be expanded to include front-line workers in homeless services considering they are recognised as healthcare workers and have conducted Covid-19 testing and vaccinations; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [17194/22]

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