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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I specifically asked the Minister whether he has a plan B in the event that the talks are not successful. If he does not, that is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: That was my question. It is regrettable-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Nobody has suggested that for a moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Nobody has suggested that for a moment. I have not done so and nor has anybody in this room or outside it. The only person talking about it is the Minister. It is deeply regrettable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I asked the Minister whether he has a plan B and he said he does not. I have questions I wish to ask him. The Minister brought up the issue of Aer Lingus. I asked him if he has a plan B. He does not. That is fine. That is his position. I regret that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: The Minister regrets the premise of my question-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: -----which is related to the importance of the connectivity not just for business-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: -----and for workers but also because of the potential reputational damage. I asked the Minister if he had a plan B. He said that he did not. That is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I have questions to ask the Minister-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: -----that relate to the substance of his submission.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I prefaced everything I said by being crystal clear with the Minister. I share his hopes that the talks will be fruitful, but in the event that they are not, people watching this meeting want to know if there is a plan B and there is not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I asked the Minister if he had a plan B.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: His answer was "No".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: There is nothing dangerous about a fall-back plan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: We heard it on the radio this morning.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: The Minister will intervene where he feels there is an issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: If he does not think it is appropriate now, that is fine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I want to ask the Minister about the substance of the discussion because I am conscious of the time. I want to talk to him about businesses that export. He will be aware, as I am, that they generally perform better across the KPIs, including employment and productivity. It is a bit of a no-brainer that expanding exporting will improve our broad economic performance. In recent years the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I was specifically referring to SMEs. Could the Minister decouple those figures? The figure I have in front of me, of 3.2%, potentially dropping to 2.8%, refers specifically to SMEs. To be fair, it is an area where there is great potential.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Engagement with the Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment (3 Jul 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: It is just a case of harnessing that potential. Sometimes those figures can become somewhat distorted when we bring the larger players into it. What are the specific figures for SMEs?

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