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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What recruitment criteria did Mr. Fraser apply when putting the audit committee together?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: We do not know whether any of them are accountants. Is there a process in place now for the committee to meet if the chair is indisposed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I would say there should be. That is a failing I have identified.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Are there internal auditors for the President's Establishment?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Who are they?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is a committee, as Mr. Fraser mentioned. There is also the NACE and so on. In 2015 the spend on training and development was €122,000, but it went up to €302,000 in 2016. For there a particular reason for the increase?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is that a permanent game? Do the 26 members of staff continue on, regardless of who is in office, or are the staff determined by the term of the incumbent?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is it similar to how a Minister can have advisers and so on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In the main, is there a core of, say, 18 or 20 staff?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Therefore, expenditure on training is not lost from one administration to the next.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is the Comptroller and Auditor General aware of an amount of €325,000 per year in the President's Establishment, the detail of which is not open to him to audit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What is it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am not talking about salaries at all and do not want to talk about the President either.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What is it? How much is it per year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does Mr. Fraser know what the amount is per year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I do not think it has a title, which is why I am trying to get some answers. I asked the Comptroller and Auditor General if he was aware of an amount of money, approximately €325,000 per year, which is not a salary, which is not open to the Comptroller and Auditor General to audit.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It was a payment under the Presidential Establishment Act 1938 of €317,000 for 2017.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In that case, is it remuneration?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Okay. It is not a salary.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 1 - President's Establishment
(25 Sep 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is not audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General.

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