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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: If there were further delays, that would set it back further and further. I was curious because what Mr. Barry said at the health committee about minor delays did not tally with what Mr. Reid, I think, from the HSE said. There were media reports going back to last September that an internal memo in the HSE had stated that capital project for the new children's hospital is facing delays to...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Reid said that "capital project for the new children's hospital is facing delays to the construction programme which could impact critical timelines if mitigation measures are not taken". I would presume that the board would have seen to it that stringent mitigating measures were taken to ensure that there are no further delays and timelines are not set back. Please outline what steps or...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Has nothing been pinned down? Can Mr. Barry show us a document today that lists the mitigating measures that have been put in place?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Fair enough. I want to ask about the experience of the board. There was a lack of experience on the first board. How many hospitals has Mr. Barry built?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: No, I am not talking about working or being part of working. Mr. Gunning has said that he has never done either. He has not been involved in the construction of a-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Who, on the board, is experienced in leading a hospital project of this scale?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Leading.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: We were furnished with a list that contained everybody's details and I did not see any board member who had managed or led a project of this scale before.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: No. I asked who has led a project.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: I am talking about a hospital-----

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: -----because we are talking about something specialised.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: So Mr. Barry has not. I ask because of what is stated at the bottom of page 70 of the PwC report regarding controllable risks and please note that the contractors are BAM. It reads: "Contract management. The Contractors understand the contractual relationships better than the NPHDB, allowing them to exploit opportunities to increase prices." Is that not more or less saying they can make...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Right. I have quoted what is written in black and white in the PwC report.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: The report highlights my point about the lack of experience allowing contractors, and the contractor in this case, to play the board for fools as there is no expertise. Let us take, for example, specialised lighting in a hospital setting. The PwC report states that the board will be exploited because of a lack of specialised experience.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Barry can be gobsmacked but we are talking about public funding and public moneys. It is not the first time that the board was appointed lacking in experience. It is the second time that nobody has specialised experience and nobody has led a project of this nature before. It is a case of déjà vu and we have a board with no experience, a fact that is clearly stated in black...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2018 (5 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: No but the PwC report highlights the lack of experience on the board and the fact that its members could be exploited, and not for the first time as this is the second board. Hence, the overrun and why we are here in the first instance.

Ceisteanna (Atógáil) - Questions (Resumed) - Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: IDA Ireland Jobs Data (3 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: Those jobs are welcome, but the Minister has not answered my question-----

Ceisteanna (Atógáil) - Questions (Resumed) - Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: IDA Ireland Jobs Data (3 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: 40. To ask the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation the steps she has taken to ensure that jobs created here by client companies of IDA Ireland are of decent quality and offer decent pay and conditions; if her Department maintains records regarding the pay scales relating to jobs offered by IDA Ireland companies; if not, whether she will consider same; and if she will make a statement...

Ceisteanna (Atógáil) - Questions (Resumed) - Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: IDA Ireland Jobs Data (3 Dec 2019)

Imelda Munster: I want to ask the Minister about the steps she has taken to ensure that jobs created here by client companies of IDA Ireland are of decent quality and offer decent pay and conditions. I also want to ask if her Department maintains records on pay scales relating to such jobs and, if not, whether she will consider ensuring that it does so in the future.

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