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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The definition that we currently work off is from the 1988 Act. There are two criteria there. It puts it to the local authority to interpret those criteria and make a decision itself. An interesting thing from a bureaucratic point of view is that someone has to be declared as homeless before he or she can get supports that would prevent him or her from becoming homeless. That person might...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Deputy Boyd Barrett for his questions-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Deputy Boyd Barrett should give them hell in there. Immigration is an important issue as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputies for their questions. I will address Deputy Boyd Barrett's questions first. The Deputy makes a point about how stopping evictions will prevent people entering emergency accommodation. However, there are two issues here. One is that landlords could leave the rental market, which would result in a loss of supply and people being evicted because there would not be enough...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputy. His comments on the HAP scheme are welcome and I share them. It is a real support and does meet people's needs. The private rental sector is necessary, as I have acknowledged, but it should not be as necessary as it is. These are the legacy issues the Government took up in 2011. We have been working to address them and are working ambitiously on Rebuilding Ireland,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We are doing a piece of work on the issue of overcrowding. It is due to come in the autum with the second piece of rent legislation. The first piece of legislation provided for those measures that we think we can implement more quickly because they are less complicated from a legislative point of view. We hope it will be easier to get agreement across the House in order that we can...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputies for their questions. In answer to Deputy Ó Broin on the Central Statistics Office, CSO, that proposal or suggestion was put to me but I have not approached the CSO in that regard. It is interesting that one of the reports states that emergency accommodation should not be looked at as a catch-all for everyone who is vulnerable. There is sense in that because if...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I will go back to the DRHE on that. My assumption is that was based on its interaction with individuals. I would like more detail in this report but I was keeping the DRHE under the hammer to get the report produced and delivered to me so that I could publish it. We know that more work needs to be done but a huge amount of work did go into this.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I will finish my response to Deputy Ó Broin first. I am trying to read my own handwriting. In respect of bringing information into the public domain, Brendan Kenny did not say that people are still homeless. We have to be very careful here. He said they kept their priority because that was in line with the previous policy in the local authority. Louth County Council admitted that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: That is not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: With the other Louth numbers there was no risk of people going into emergency accommodation. We are talking about people in emergency accommodation, hotels and hostels, where there is a risk to their tenancy and of their being forced out onto the streets. That is not what we are talking about here. We are talking about people who are in houses, homes, who are safe. Deputy Ó Broin is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I told the Deputy that information is coming.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The Deputy wanted us to have the meeting before we even had the information and he still wants to meet before we have the information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: No I do not have all the information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I do not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Deputy Ó Broin is trying to give the impression that the Department is not being transparent.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The Deputy is again personalising this to me. I think it is a weird pursuit.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes I am responsible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am responsible. That is why I set up the inter-agency group. That is why I came forward with recommendations. I am responsible, that is why I asked the DRHE to do this work. That is why I have published these reports. That is why I did not delay the publication to wait for the completion of a survey. It is why I published them and we are discussing them today at this committee...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Homeless Figures: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government (20 Jun 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: -----to try to help people out of emergency accommodation into homes.

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